Do People Really Think That Millions Of People Voted For Trump Because The Russians Told Them To?

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Not one person in this country voted for Donald Trump because the Russians convinced them to.

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I just wanna take a moment to talk about Russian hackers, since that’s all the rage lately from people who can’t accept reality:

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This is the saddest, most desperate thing I’ve ever seen. They’re doing exactly what they criticized President-Elect Trump of doing throughout the entire campaign – not accepting the results of a fair and democratic election. First they whined about the popular vote. Then they forced recounts that ended up giving Trump even more votes. Now they’re trying to keep the electoral college from doing its job on December 19 because they want us to believe that the Russians hacked the election.

Newsflash – not one person in this entire country voted for Donald Trump because the Russians told them to. Not one. People voted for him because his opponent was Hillary freaking Clinton. Someone who ran an awful campaign that centered on bullshit identity politics, instead of talking about the only thing people in rust belt states care about – jobs. People got sick of hearing about how racist, and misogynistic, and xenophobic Trump was. We get it. But if you’re not telling Americans how you’re gonna make life better for them, they’re not gonna show up and vote for you. We don’t need the Russians to make Hillary Clinton seem unlikeable.

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Do the Russians want Trump? Clearly. The same way the Saudis wanted Hillary, which is why they gave so much to the Clinton Foundation. But what exactly are we suggesting they did? Hacked some emails and showed the country things the Clinton campaign was saying that made them look bad? I’m not a computer genius by any means, but don’t you think using an unsecured server in a foreign country might’ve possibly contributed to that? Just sayin.

Look, this election ultimately came down to three states – PA, WI, and MI. Trump won all of them by narrow margins. So what is being alleged here is that the hundreds of thousands of people who voted for Obama in those three states in 2012, switched their vote to Trump in 2016 because the things revealed in the Russian hacks made Hillary look bad. Without those hacks these mindless lemmings (because that’s what you’d have to assume they are if this is what decided their vote) would have voted for her. So basically the politicians who are fighting this are calling these voters morons.

Granted, the Russians were very selective in the shit they hacked. I’m sure there’s PLENTY of juicy, scandalous emails going around from Republicans that they chose to ignore. But it is what it is, and it’s certainly not Trump’s fault that a foreign government chose to do this. Here’s an idea – let’s focus on stopping them from doing this in the future. Just a thought.

And on what planet am I living where the messenger gets blamed in a situation like that?

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Here’s an idea – stop doing shady shit and putting it on the Internet. Assume everything you write on a computer will be traced back to you. Because it will. Grownups understand that, but since we’re dealing with a bunch of pussies wearing safety pins it’s clear that we’re not dealing with grownups. We’re dealing with children like Uncle Jimmy McGovern who want to further divide us by casting doubt on the legitimacy of this election. The same exact shit they said was so dangerous just two months ago. And it’s working with the sheep:

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Look, I’m not so naive to believe that Trump wouldn’t be saying the same exact shit if he lost. Because he would. He’s a big baby too. But I just find it hilarious that these are the same exact people who acted like the world was gonna blow up if Trump followed through on his promise to not accept the election results unless he won. And now they’re doing the same exact thing.

 

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Discussion

  1. Phong


    The problem is that the Republicans chosen for the commission will be ones that didn’t want him elected either.

  2. BobnMic


    EVERYONE I DON’T LIKE IS A FEISTY LAWYER LADY OR A TURD BURGLER

  3. rat


    It’s not that people (at least not me) think that the Russians convinced people to vote for Trump (maybe they did, maybe they didn’t) it’s that they seemed to WANT to influence the election results in Trump’s favor. And I think you know that. You’re just trying to muddy the waters to whip up your knuckle-dragging, low-information followers into another “libtard-hating” frenzy.

    Does it not concern you that the Russian government seemingly had a vested interest in getting Trump elected? Remember what Hillary said about him being a puppet? Maybe she was onto something there. Remember when Donald praised Putin because Putin had said nice things about him (or at least that’s how Trump interpreted it)? Now we see Donald filling his cabinet with a bunch of millionaires and billionaires who are cozy with Putin and other Russian oligarchs.

    I think we should all be scared and yes, demand an investigation! This isn’t about partisianship. This is about what is in the best interests of the USA. Any true patriot would understand that.

    1. Turd Burglestein


      FIFY

      It’s not that people (at least not me) think that the Saudis convinced people to vote for Hillary (maybe they did, maybe they didn’t) it’s that they seemed to WANT to influence the election results in Hillary’s favor. And I think you know that. You’re just trying to muddy the waters to whip up your knuckle-dragging, low-information followers into another “libtard-hating” frenzy.

      Does it not concern you that the Saudi government seemingly had a vested interest in getting Hillary elected? Remember what Trump said about her being a puppet? Maybe he was onto something there. Remember when Hillary took all that money from the Saudis and other foreign governments)? Now had she won, we’d see Hillary filling her cabinet with a bunch of muslim sympathizers and SJWs who are cozy with Saudi Arabia and Iran.

      I think we should all be scared and yes, demand an investigation! This isn’t about partisonship. This is about what is in the best interests of the USA. Any true patriot would understand that.

      1. BobnMic


        Jesus Turd for once something thought provoking and intelligent came out of your mouth. Nice job and I agree totally. On board with that.

      2. Professor M(eth)


        Hey bobbie, I don’t think that kissing Turd’s ass is going to make him stop trolling you any time soon.

        1. BobnMic


          I really could give two shits (or Turds) about that. That should be obvious by now. I can compliment as well as criticize. It’s called being an adult and a free thinker. You should try some.

          1. BobnMic's Gerbil


            Try some what bob? You better be giving 2 shits (or turds) about bringing me home some cedar chips and a fresh box of hartz treats. I’d also like a new wheel because this one squeeks. I’d hope you’d treat your favorite sex toy to a nice Christmas this year after all the money you’ve made this year in between owning Verizon and the military and police pensions and all.

          2. BobnMic's Blow Up Wife


            No wait up here a minute Bob! I thought I was your favorite sex toy.

          3. BobnMic's Gaping Anus


            WRONG!!! ALL OF YOU! MY FAVORITE TOY IS A HILTI JACKHAMMER RIGHT IN THE BACK DOOR.

      3. rat


        Oh, please, just do a quick Google search and you’ll find all sorts of information about Donald’s dealings with the Saudi’s.

        Here’s just one example:

        “Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump World Tower to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for $4.5 million in June 2001, according to a city Finance Department spokeswoman. In 2008, the apartments became part of the Saudi Mission to the United Nations, records show.”

        1. KJDS


          He was not a politician. He was a private businessman. There is actually a difference, you know.

        2. MrSmiley


          So we’re uninformed knuckle draggers. But doing a google search makes YOU informed….. Riiiiight..
          Plenty of koolaid for you to keep chugging champ.

      4. rat


        False equivalency. But not surprising.

        1. BobnMic's Gerbil


          Nobody gives a rat’s ass. not surprising.

    2. Jay


      Wow the Russians didn’t want the candidate that wants to go to war with them?? Clearly we Americans should be outraged by this surprising fact

      1. rat


        You do know that Donald Trump said, “I love war!”

        1. KJDS


          Context is important:

          Trump, Nov. 12, 2015: This is the Trump theory on war. But I’m good at war. I’ve had a lot of wars of my own. I’m really good at war. I love war, in a certain way, but only when we win.

          Do you think that when he said, “I’m really good at war,” in the above quote that he was saying that he had actually conducted a true war?

          No – he’s talking about boardroom wars – negotiating at the table. Getting the best deal – not giving away the Goddamn store, which is what Obama has done for the past 8 years.

          How’s that Iran deal working out?

        2. BobnMic's Gerbil


          Not even I give a rats ass about your libtarded conspiracy theories. Go take your ass back to little green footballs or whatever looney left wing site you came from.

      2. True Reality Speaks


        The hypocrisy of the Left fear mongering that Trump will side with Putin, while the Dems have been subverted and controlled by socialist dogma and propaganda for decades is truly Orwellian. The Dems are the true puppets – and most aren’t even aware of it they are so utterly brainwashed.

  4. MrSmiley


    All politicians are puppets at days end. Now people care about who’s pulling the strings?? Cmaaaan.

  5. Chris From Georgia


    So if I understand the position of liberals, Russia influenced the outcome of this election by exposing the TRUTH about Hillary Clinton and the way the Democrat Party conducts itself???

    1. KJDS


      Yep. They (if it was them – no proof has actually been given, yet) gave the Americans a bunch of accurate, truthful information that our own press wouldn’t. DAMN THEM!

  6. KJDS


    Ahem – anyone remember when Obama sent his team over to Israel and spent millions to try and sway the Israeli elections away from Netanyahu? How outrageous!! How dare we interfere in another country’s free and fair election!!!

    Media, media – where were you on that one?

    1. rat


      ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo

      What would you guys do without me?

      1. KJDS


        We probably wouldn’t laugh quite as much, for one.

        1. rat


          Well, I hope you’re still laughing in 4 years.

          1. KJDS


            The CIA and the FBI looked at the same NSA-generated raw data and came to opposite conclusions. CIA says it was Russia, FBI says there’s no direct evidence of that. Though there is evidence of leaking, there is no evidence whatsoever of hacking ballot machines.

            Not to mention that the politicized CIA came to the conclusion that Benghazi was a ‘spontaneous protest’, and that Iraq had WMDs . . .they are so very trustworthy, aren’t they?

          2. True Reality Speaks


            No you don’t. You’d rather be a treasonous useful idiiot than admit you’re the real sock puppet.

  7. BobnMic


    Which is why I watch Fox news only. Fair and balanced. And truthful. They hate the mainstream media and when they call them out on specifics it is a riot.

  8. Mike


    I think the mistake being made here is that you are assuming that the only way for someone to get you to do something is to come right out and tell you to. I doubt it swayed the election that much but there certainly people who’s voting decisions were influence by actions taken by a foreign nation. Personally, I don’t care which way it swayed, if a another nation (especially Russia) took steps to interfere or influence public opinion about our election, it should be investigated. Not to change the results of this election but instead to put safeguards in place to prevent it from being expanded upon in future elections. What really troubles me is how easily Trump brushes aside the findings from the entirety of US intelligence. Its an indication that he puts his own ego and “brand” above the interests of the nation and that is also troubling.

    1. KJDS


      “findings from the entirety of US intelligence”

      This is a false statement. I suspect you know that, though.

      1. rat


        Talk about drinking the koolaid.

    2. Wwy


      U.S intelligence lol sounds like an oxymoron where the fuck were you during the Iraqi holocaust based on (lol) U.S intelligence,that’s a good joke mike. Fuckin dumb Americans following kikes to the oven.

  9. paul


    I think it is ironic that McGovern is complaining about people trying to influence an election. he has done this his whole career and now he is bitching when this one didn’t go his way.

    1. Jim McGovern


      I don’t have to influence anything. No one bothers to run against me except for those cute Turtleboy wire ins. And with no term limits I’ll outlast the next five presidents!

  10. Fatfingr Lou


    The range of thought: What could be!, maybe not?, MEH. Oh no, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!

    Fucking Media. Truth and News. Neither, Nor

  11. Independent Thinker


    I won’t be satisfied until Trump is sworn into office. The Republicans and Democrats will both conspire to screw him out of the Presidency while having the House of Representatives select a loser like Romney to be the President.

    Obama says he’s going to retaliate. What’s he going to do, drop a few bombs on Russia?

    Funny how they ignored all of this before the election because they all thought Hillary would win, and they wanted Trump to be the Republican nominee because they thought he would be easy to beat.

    Once Trump gets into office, Obama’s presidency will be nothing more than a footnote in the history books. America’s first black President, even though he’s half white as well. Now watch someone call me a racist.

  12. Kristin Keevan


    Hey KJDS, you might want to check today’s headlines.

    “The CIA and the FBI looked at the same NSA-generated raw data and came to opposite conclusions. CIA says it was Russia, FBI says there’s no direct evidence of that. Though there is evidence of leaking, there is no evidence whatsoever of hacking ballot machines.”

  13. Wwy


    There has been a wailing wall of kike coverage around this but the source is Jew news,the wailing wall protects god from Jews getting close to him but people believe the kike American media,I hope Putin nukes Israel. I would of voted for Putin over Hillary and the mullatto. Kikes ruined Russia now America we need a hitler.

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