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    The Daily NorthwesternNorthwestern buzzed this April with conversation about how sexual violence touches our campus — from Sex Week to the Take Back the Night March to last week’s statement at The Rock. Interfraternity Council chapters hung banners in the fraternity quad reading “(fraternity name) supports survivors” or “It’s everyone’s problem.”

    Although perpetration of sexual assault is not limited to Greek men, a 2005 study by Ohio University found that men in fraternities were three times more likely to commit sexual assault than non-affiliated male students. These banners publicly project an image of solidarity, and some chapters made signs and marched with Take Back the Night. A congratulations is hardly in order, however. Conversations about sexual assault within fraternities must continue beyond a single month of awareness or solitary presentation from Sexual Health and Assault Peer Educators or Men Against Rape and Sexual Assault.Fraternity men must hold friends accountable or else their banners are just cruel reminders that attempts to change sexual culture in fraternities are purely symbolic.

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    In her book “Campus Sex, Campus Security” feminist scholar Jennifer Doyle asks what it would look like for a campus to be held accountable for its sexual culture. What would it look like for IFC chapters to be held accountable for the sexual culture they create at NU? What would it look like for Panhellenic Association as a national organization to be held accountable for the sexual culture it creates by limiting parties and alcohol to male-dominated spaces? What would it look like for conversations about sexual assault to be ongoing on campus, instead of simply occurring for the purpose of checking a box or reacting to demonstrations?

    It looks like always keeping an eye on friends’ drinking and who they’re trying to take home. It looks like asking if a friend is interested in and capable of going home with someone. It looks like sororities hosting parties so that women on campus have control over who gets through the door and what they drink. It looks like a radical shift in our discourse about sexually active women — toward support instead of shame.

    Jessica Schwalb is a Weinberg freshman. She can be contacted at[email protected].

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    Oh look, more college idiots making fools of themselves. So let me get this straight. Fraternities get an unfair rap as being rape factories because they have parties on campus and like to hook up with chicks. In order to show the campus that they are indeed opposed to rape they hang these banners outside of their houses to let the world know that they oppose rape. Then some idiotic feministo on a power trip tells them it’s not good enough.

    Makes sense. It’s like when peaceful Muslim people speak out against terrorism. I’m assuming that Jessica Schwalb yells at these people and says they’re not doing enough to stop terrorism either. Even though they are completely innocent, it’s still their job to make sure that terrorism never happens, just like it’s the job of innocent frat bros to make sure that no other frat bros rape anyone. Duh.

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    The most bullshit part about this is blaming colleges and fraternities for the “sexual culture.” As if drunk college girls with loose morals have NOTHING to do with that. Look, it takes two to tango. No one is condoning rape. Ever. But a big thing that feministos have been pushing since day one has been “sexual liberation.” They are the ones who created this “sexual culture,” not frats.

    Just check out the last paragraph:

    It looks like always keeping an eye on friends’ drinking and who they’re trying to take home.

    Or you could just trust your friends to be adults and make responsible decisions. I’ve seen this one a million times before. It’s the miserable hag who hates all men and spends the rest of the night making sure her friends don’t hook up with anyone, because God knows she won’t be.

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    It looks like asking if a friend is interested in and capable of going home with someone.

    Newsflash – if you ask a friend if they’re capable of going home with someone, they will say yes. Regardless of whether or not they are drunk. If they look like they’re about to pass out and the guy they’re with has the date-rapey look in his eyes, then by all means, intervene. But until then, try to treat your adult friend like, I dunno, an adult?

    It looks like sororities hosting parties so that women on campus have control over who gets through the door and what they drink.

    Hey moron, sororities are the ones who don’t allow themselves to have parties. Because sororities are nice and fraternities are shitty. The only reason for frats to exist is for them to get torn apart in parties. Sororities realize this and don’t have parties for that exact reason. Because guys can live in filth and shit and girls can’t.

    It looks like a radical shift in our discourse about sexually active women — toward support instead of shame.

    Luckily for her Turtleboy knows plenty of people who actively support sexually active women. Problem solved.

    The bottom line is there is ZERO reason to try to kiss the asses of these feministo psychopaths. No matter what you do it won’t be enough. They’re miserable human beings who only exist to shit on dudes. The best way to show that you’re against rape is to just not rape people, like 99.999% of civilized human beings already do.

     

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    Discussion

    1. Jon


      Dead on. It upssets me. beyond comprehension, that young men are always immediately “guilty until proven innocent.” It is untrue and unfair for the ‘feministos’ – and everyone else, these days, for that matter – to consistently group these dudes together and automatically assume the guy is at fault.

      I got plenty of ass at college, and i dont recall one single time when either myself, or the girl weren’t both drunk…but I wasn’t an idiot — I remember a night freshman year I was partying with a girl I had just met and she got pass out drunk wasted. Not knowing who to call, or where she lived, and NOT wanting to get her in trouble for being wasted, I let her sleep in my dorm bed while I SLEPT ON THE FLOOR! Because that is what normal people do when a girl is beyond fucking wasted…she was super embarrassed when she woke up spooning a puke bucket (just in case she puked – again, normal guys want to help a girl who’s that messed up, not rape her) to find me on the floor in a sleepingbag the following morning and thanked me for helping her.

      I was never in a frat, but I was friends with some guys who were, and these guys were seriously committed to the well being of everyone who came for a party. They were vehemently AGAINST any type of Lifetime movie, gang raping, chauvinistic, douche bag guys who would ever think of pulling the type of crap I hear come out of these “it’s never enough, all guys are horrible people and just want to constantly take advantage of women” shit heads.

      In the real world MOST guys have morals and will not condone rape, ever, period. Young mens lives have been ruined by false accusations of rape. The media pounces on these stories these days, no consideration about the fact that the girl might have just regretted it and called rape. I’ve seen this happen time and time again. In NO WAY am I saying that rape isnt real, I know what real rape is, years ago my ex was brutally raped, her head bashed in with a rock, and left for dead from a douche bag – who was one of her friends – when she was studying abroad!

      My wife was nearly raped when she was completely shit faced oblivious by some creepo when she was back in college – luckily her friends found her and intervened. I understand that this shit DOES happen. But the frat boys are usually the ones sticking up for the girls when the rape artists try to take advantage of them!

      College is a time of promiscuity, both sexes love to have it. Just because girls are willingly having sex more frequently at frat houses (none of the ones Ive ever been to, the best parties were always at peoples rented houses, not frat houses when i was in school. The frat houses were always boring…occassional kicker party, but mostly studying and selling weed out of them going on there) doesnt mean that theyre raping these girls.

      Bottom line: dudes are protective of the pack, whether they know the girl or not, and they will show up in masses to prevent a rape artist from screwing the passed out chick…seen it happen many, many times.

      1. BobnMic


        Well done Jon. How any man can rape a woman is beyond my comprehension. Period. No excuses and booze or drugs do not justify. Period. I love women. They are either into me or they are not. Period. End of fucking story. Period.

    2. Wwy


      After Bill Clinton and Cosby got away with rape everyone thinks they can. Not many men left in America just a bunch of soft follow the leaders.

      1. TargetPractice


        What a completely uninformed and moronic comment from someone who could probably never get sex without paying for it.

        Bill Clinton was the most powerful man in the world. You think he had to rape anyone? Monica’s mouth was watering every time he entered the room and he finally gave her some dick. And Cosby is a complete piece of a shit and there is no man who thinks otherwise. You really think guys are wandering down alleys looking for rape targets like ” well it worked for Cosby!”

        Fucking moron

        1. wabbitt


          He has a hard on for Bill Clinton and Israel. He’s nothing but a tinfoil hat wearing antisemitic whack job. Just downvote him and move on.

          1. BobnMic


            Speaking of whack jobs – how you doin’ Wabbitt?

            1. wabbitt


              Leaning left on some social issues does not a whack job make.

        2. Wwy


          See not many men left,wabbit and now this shitstain defend the rapists Bill Clinton and Cosby they think I refer to Monica,no bill has raped numerous women it’s why he was kicked out of Oxford in England. Sorry Americans are the 36th most educated country in the world. I love listening to people defend the terrorist state of Israel it’s too funny. I wonder if wabbit got his dick pic from that JEW Anthony wiener. Wabbit got to be a sex offender just read his comments,birds of a feather…

          1. wabbitt


            Dude must be a Hamster College student – calls everyone a rapist and hates Jews.

            1. Wwy


              I can only call wabbit uneducated. Facts don’t matter only the Clinton welfare program I presume.

    3. Sterling Turtle Rider


      It’s just another manifestation of this “blame society” shtick that has been so hot since the 60’s. Let’s not get bogged down in the messy details of the people involved, it’s the “chauvenistic white frat culture”. Let’s not take a long look at the circumstances involved in each separate case – no, it’s just much easier for everyone involved to just blame an amorphous group of people and call it a day.
      Also, why isn’t this feministo calling out all the chicks who show up once a year to march and then do nothing else? Or the faculty for posting a sign, wearing a ribbon, or whatever else meaningless B.S. the SJW’s like to do, and then forgetting about it? Oh yeah, because they aren’t cool to go after… just the dudes.

    4. Spankster


      Right on with the Feminazi’s T.B. They started this sexual liberation, burned their bras, girdles and panties and now bitch that they have nothing to wear

    5. Peaknotbrain


      I might have supported this article didn’t put this line in. “As if drunk college girls with loose morals have nothing to do with it”. Right there is why the author doesn’t get it and never will. He just blamed and put the responsibility on the woman. It’s the typical male out. ‘She was drunk and asking for it.’, ‘She should have known better to be there drunk’.
      So drunk women have loose morals (sluts) and deserve whatever she gets according to the author. This is the typical male get out of jail free card. Quit blaming the women and putting the responsibility on her and her female friends. Yes, you did exactly that with your article. Get a clue.

      This is why I left TB on FB. They’ll let any thicko write articles for them.

      1. Turtleboy


        Way to completely make up your own set of facts!! The blog said that girls getting wasted and having loose morals contributed to the sexual culture, not “rape culture.” But I guess making things up is your only defense in the face of facts

      2. TargetPractice


        Complete fucking moron who can’t read and is just dying to insert their diatribe into the conversation even when it makes no fucking sense. Please copy and paste the part of the blog that says “drunk chicks are asking to be raped” because no one else saw it, maybe it only showed up on your screen.

        The fact is, young drunk chicks like to have sex. I know, shocker, it’s not just guys. But women have been given a get of jail free card, so when their friends start calling them sluts, or they realize the guy they fucked doesn’t love them, they can claim rape, and no one can question it, it’s a slam dunk rape even if the girl was the aggressor. Maybe guys need that, when our friends bust our balls for fucking that fat chick the night before, “she raped me.”

        This is why men are sick of hearing about your fucking lie of “rape culture”. Do you think we sit around and compare our rape stories and have a laugh? When we see that cute chick smiling at our friends, “hey dude you should totally rape her!” Fucking get over yourselves. No one wants to rape you, and the guy who does is a sick fuck that we all fucking hate.

        PS: the guy who is going to rape you is not the alpha male athlete frat guy who gets pussy everyday

      3. wabbitt


        More like “if both of them are drunk, why is the man always automatically the rapist?”

      4. Gabriel


        It reminds me of that girl that “snap chat” her “Friend” getting raped while you could hear her laugh in the background. she then played victim too when the police arrested her for participating. People like you make Sharia law almost make sense.

    6. Livesinlowell


      Women, loose or not, that go these frat parties are part of “sexual culture”. The writer of tb article wasn’t blaming women but just pointing out they too like to have consentual sex and get drunk.

      1. Jon


        Exactly!

        Anyone who doesnt get what TB was trying to say in this article is obviously part of the problem. Every guy I know would never let anyone take advantage of an incapacitated woman. Period.

        Back when I was in college, my friends (and guys that I didn’t even know) would make sure that type of shit never happened. Frat boys and the majority of college males alike do NOT condone rape – neither do high school boys or adult men for that matter.

        College chicks like to get drunk and hookup, but no guy is gonna hook up with a train wreck who cant make decisions herself – unless you’re a rapist…and then u will get your ass kicked.

        If another guy sees some sketchy shit going down they’re gonna stop it!!!

    7. wabbitt


      Time for the feministos to realize something – women like dick! Just as men love pussy, women LOVE dick! Even lesbians! They may not like it attached to a guy, but they’ll take some vibrating plastic cock when the mood suits them.

      Just because all of us love to fuck, doesn’t mean we all condone and participate in rape.

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