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We Haven’t Written A Blog About Philando Castille Because We Don’t Know Shit And Neither Does Anyone Else

 

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We haven’t had a chance to blog about the Philando Castille shooting in Minnesota, so let’s talk about the second viral police shooting video from this week. Observe:

The most alarming part about this video is that the cop sounds like he’s shitting his pants. Almost as if he knows he fucked up. But yet somehow she is amazingly calm. Turtleboy is not a psychologist and cannot comment on why people act certain ways during intense situations, but it just wasn’t the type of behavior we expected from either party.

Here’s the thing though – we don’t know what happened. Everyone jumped to conclusions that the cop was 100% in the wrong. But…..the shooting was not on video. That’s kind of an important part of this story, right? So how can anyone possibly draw a definitive conclusion on whether or not the shooting was justified? Makes no sense.

But of course if you said this on Facebook someone probably called you a racist. Just your privilege talking. How dare you wait for facts to come up before formulating an opinion. You should jump to conclusions for personal gain, like Mark Dayton and Hillary Clinton. That’s the American way.

Anyway, a very interesting article came out late yesterday about the deceased Mr. Castille, on a website called conservativetreehouse.com. Granted, just the name of the website implies bias. So we recognized that before we read it. But they presented some things that the mainstream media will almost definitely ignore, because it makes CNN a lot more money if an overly anxious cop shot a black man who was reaching for his wallet. Let’s check out some of what they had to offer:

“Saint Anthony, MN, Police Officers Jeronimo Yanez and Joseph Kauser pulled over Mr. Castile and Ms. Reynolds because the driver, Philando Castile, matched the suspect profile in an armed robbery which occurred on July 2nd, at a convenience store, only a few blocks from where their car was pulled over.”

The armed robbery occurred on July 2nd 7:30pm (Sat).  The CCTV images were given to media and LEO by detectives on July 5th (Tuesday).  A BOLO (Be On Look Out) alert was issued the same day, Tuesday July 5th.  Philando Castile was pulled over on July 6th.

From the radio dispatch of Officer Jeronimo Yanez:

I’m going to stop a car. I’m going to check IDs.  I have reason to pull it over.”

The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.” 

A minute and a half later, the recording captures the first report that there was a shooting. (link)

Ms. Diamond Reynolds narrates the now viral Facebook video with several false statements. Reynolds claimed they were pulled over for a broken tail light, false.

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So that kind of changes things if it’s true. And it’s definitely true, since the radio dispatch was linked. He was not pulled over for a broken tail light, as was alleged. He was pulled over because he matched the description of a robbery suspect:

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I have no idea if that’s really Philando Castille. But the police are paid to question suspects and follow up on leads. Pulling someone over who matches the description of a robbery subject is pretty standard procedure. If cops didn’t do that then we’d never catch bad guys.

However, this does NOT mean that the woman was necessarily lying. Here’s how a police officer explained how both the dispatcher and the woman could likely be telling the truth:

“The disparity between the radio traffic and Reynold’s version of events has people wondering if Reynolds is lying. Reynolds is most likely telling the truth about the reason for the stop. Police officers are not required to tell people the actual reason they were stopped, as long as they were stopped for a lawful reason. The officer’s purpose was simply to identify Castile so that he could be investigated as a suspect in the robbery. The officers likely told Castile that they stopped him for a taillight violation; that way Castile would assume that it was a routine traffic stop and hopefully not react violently. Because the officers knew that they were dealing with potentially armed felony suspects, they were likely on high-alert for any motion that may indicate that somebody was reaching for a gun.”

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So yea, if the cop did say that they pulled them over for a taillight, it was only because if the cop mentioned the armed robbery it could’ve created a volatile situation. Makes sense. We’d like to think that the woman is telling the truth in the video, but like I said, we like to formulate our opinions based on documented facts.

Here’s another interesting tidbit:

Ms. Reynolds also claims her boyfriend, Castile, was holding a concealed carry permit for a firearmthat was resting on his left thigh.  This also appears to be false. According to a question presented to the local county sheriff who oversees the Concealed Carry Permit process, Mr. Castile had never requested a concealed carry permit from their office:

This is pretty misleading, and does NOT mean that Philando Castille did not have a permit. Since this information is not accessible under state law, we can’t know for sure. However, the Ramsey County Sheriff is not the only person who issues permits to carry. Any sheriff could do that. It’s quite possible that Philando Castille got a permit from another sheriff. Once again, there’s no way to know for sure, so Turtleboy is gonna wait for the facts to come out before jumping to conclusions. Crazy, right?

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Conservative treehouse is also alleging that the gun seen in the video on Philando Castille’s lap is the same one that is seen in the robbery video:

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Yea……no. There’s no way to tell for sure that’s the same gun. Probably would be a lot easier to figure out if that’s him in the video if you analyze his facial features instead. Just sayin.

The website also points out that the family has made a lot of money off of this:

♦ The “Family” has raised $149,720 so far, exceeding their goal of $100,000.

♦ Big Sister “Allysza” has raised $55,866 so far, with a goal of $80,000.

But that doesn’t prove anything either. I mean, what are they suggesting? That this was some big scam the family organized? That they fed their kid to the police so they could make cash money in his name? Come on now.

There’s a bunch more stuff in there, like the fact that she smokes Newports and the robbers stole a carton of Newports, but none of it proves anything. All it does is highlight that we don’t actually know anything, which Turtleboy thinks is really important. The only ones who know anything are the officers involved and the woman in the car. Yet everyone is an expert, and millions are marching on highways all over the country because they’ve got it all figured out. Must be nice to know everything all the time.

Anyway, if it happened as the woman claims it did, then the officer is guilty. But if the officer really told the man he thought had previously committed armed robbery not to reach for his wallet and Philando pulled out his gun anyway, then obviously it’s justified. The bottom line is we don’t know shit, so stop acting like you know everything. That’s how a rational adult would handle this.

But instead the governor of Minnesota literally said that Philando Castille was DEFINITELY pulled over because of the taillight, and would not have been killed if he was white!!

What the hell is wrong with this idiot? How can he know for sure that he wouldn’t have been killed if he was white? Why does he think now is a good time to go tossing his cockamamy opinions out there? More white people are killed by cops on an annual basis, so why would this be unheard of? All this guy is doing is dumping gasoline on the fire for political gain. Because he knows if he tells the mob to wait for the facts to come out that they’ll protest his house and call him a racist. Just another gutless, lying politician.

 

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29 Comment(s)
  • Joe
    July 10, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    Ps whats up with your blog giving my phone a virus everyother day what the fuck kinda bullshit you doing. Them shit pop ups come on and the phone goes strait to your Samsung is infected. Jeeze clean up howie car of central mass.

    • Shackleford
      July 10, 2016 at 1:51 pm

      Get a real phone

    • wtatnuckgangsta
      July 10, 2016 at 6:45 pm

      Get on the Google machine and do some learnins. Ad Block is a thing. Have a problem? Learn something. Fix it. Don’t bitch.

  • Joe
    July 10, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    Wish we could go back to talking about worcester shit like strawberrys downtown this shit got me burnt out cant even have fun making fun of the fat model chick cause someone said fifty shades of fat to quick. Think im gonna pop a subuxone and hang out at that park at the.end of queen street maybe find some clonopins for cheap. Signing off peace tb keep the hate alive.

    • wtatnuckgangsta
      July 10, 2016 at 6:42 pm

      Typical response from somebody who lives in their own little world. It’s not all about you, kid.

  • Randy Haskins
    July 10, 2016 at 11:12 am

    So there’s the governor/clown in MN judging without all the facts, and the guy at the national level who shits on police every chance he gets. But according to WaPo, NYT, and all the other Publishers of Prevarication, Trump is the one with inflammatory rhetoric. We have a SERIOUS media problem in this country. But the members of Turtle Nation already knew that…

  • paul
    July 10, 2016 at 10:17 am

    i sure hope Jake isn’t referring to me as a cop hating democrat. as anyone on here as see my posts in the past, they know i support the police 100%.

    • Jake
      July 10, 2016 at 11:48 am

      No, the opposite. Democratic leadership has thrown Cops under the bus time & time again like this. Yet police unions almost always push them to vote Democrats.

      • Paul
        July 10, 2016 at 11:51 am

        Thank you for clarifying that

  • FiestyLawyerLady
    July 10, 2016 at 9:48 am

    Has anyone here had the privilege of seeing this woman and man smoke weed in a car with blasting music while their 4 year old daughter sat in the back and asked them to put the music lower? Yeah….. upstanding citizen. Just search her name on youtube, the video is available.

    Disgusting.

    • Three Ball Fred
      July 11, 2016 at 3:00 pm

      YOU are disgusting. Your box should be regulated under the Super Fund laws.

  • Jake
    July 10, 2016 at 7:26 am

    Another Democrat throwing the Police under the bus. Yet most Police blindly follow their Union direction & will always vote – you guessed it Democrat !

  • Paul
    July 10, 2016 at 5:56 am

    Here is some more common sense from a racist white person. If the cop shot this guy for no reason, then he should be charged with murder and thrown in jail, IF the facts of the case support this.

  • Wwy
    July 10, 2016 at 1:00 am

    With mark wahlbergs criminal record and his long time in d.y.s as a kid TB will be all over him starring in a movie based on hate,especially with his hate crime against the Vietnames kid he almost beat to death. I know TB hasn’t written about this yet. It be a shame unless he plays one of the Remy family. Boston strong give me a break.lol

    • Chris Seith
      woodsmañ
      July 10, 2016 at 2:04 am

      damn jews are taken everything

  • Wwy
    July 10, 2016 at 12:52 am

    Well one thing we know is the Jews in Hollywood will be making money off their next movie American sniper 2, we know because they already are exploiting what happen in Boston with the movie patriots day. American sniper the original I made a point not to see because Hitler was a war hero in WWI. No difference.

    • Jake
      July 10, 2016 at 7:30 am

      Why are you anti-Semitic? Cause your unsuccessful in life so you want to knock others?

  • Publius
    July 9, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    This post offers more facts than half of what is out there.

  • Randy Haskins
    July 9, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    I’m surprised that Gov Dayton didn’t say, “It is clear the police acted stupidly.” Stupid people really need to stop electing stupid politicians.

  • Mike D
    July 9, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    Well the facial hair isn’t the same between the two. Guy in the car has a chin strap and the guy robbing the store doesn’t. I love how you spend most of the article trying to cast doubt on the guy and his girlfriend, but at the same time trying to sound fair and that you’re not jumping to conclusions. No, you’re not racist, you just don’t like black people. Must feel good to be the lord of the flies.

    Linda Murphy is right, you comment on every bit of speculation but say you don’t want to comment.

    Stop lying about your web traffic.

    • Useyablinka
      July 10, 2016 at 4:45 pm

      ^ Getting pulled over that many times is absurd. How many out of town plates living in the wrong state, no seat belts, texting on cellphones , past due stickers and people drive around like that everyday and don’t get pulled over like that. Also, this video occurred at 9pm at night but, the entire video is shot in brought day light? Something is off about the whole story.

  • Linda Murphy
    July 9, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    Stating that you don’t want to comment until all the facts are in and then commenting on every item of SPECULATION that you’ve come across seems, at the very least, contradictory, and a careless way to spread misinformation.

    • Jake
      July 10, 2016 at 11:44 am

      LINDA, his blog makes sense and is reasonable. Truth hurt?

  • MrSmiley
    July 9, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    Ha yuuuup

    • Phong
      July 9, 2016 at 7:06 pm

      Rule #1 for a traffic stop is to have your paperwork out.
      Rule #1 when you have a firearm is to have it secure,(not in your lap) and to inform the cop about it. That should be the first words out of your mouth while your hands are visible.

      • Shackleford
        July 10, 2016 at 1:50 pm

        Sorry Phong, but you should never reach for paperwork prior to an officer requesting it. Rule#1 would be to turn your vehicle off, roll your window down and place your hands on the wheel.

  • wtatnuckgansta
    July 9, 2016 at 5:16 pm

    popcorn, lawnchair, waiting…this gon’ be good.

    • Wwy
      July 10, 2016 at 1:04 am

      Yes the video gave me an urge for Chinese chicken. Idk why the cop sounded like a girl.

      • wtatnuckgansta
        July 10, 2016 at 2:06 am

        He sounded like he’s already eaten the Chinese and is dealing with the consequences.

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