The Turtleboy YouTube channel is growing and has been a smashing success in the face of Facebook censoring and removing our Live Show videos. It’s a potential new source of revenue for the blog, since you can monetize videos. Most YouTubers make around $2 CPM (dollars per 1,000 views) when YouTube places ads on them. They’re pretty strict about what can have ads, and some of the videos we’ve posted of fights and stuff like that gets demonetized. I accept that because it’s their rule.
But what I can’t accept is piracy, and that’s what Huffstool Sports is currently doing to us and lots of other people. The Dog Park Diane video blew up this week for all the wrong reasons. Regardless it’s got almost 60,000 views, and would’ve made us about $120. Not gonna make us rich, but I’ll take it.
Except it didn’t make us much money at all because Barstool Sports somehow said that they’re the copyright owners of OUR video, so it got demonetized.
All I did in this video was record Franklin Smollett’s video that he posted on Facebook, directly off of my computer screen.
That video does NOT belong to Barstool Sports. It once belonged to Franklin, but after he posted it on Facebook anyone can use it. Either way, it’s an event that made the news and it certainly was not broken by a crappy PC website that caters to 19 year olds with Daddy’s credit card.
We broke this story (and corrected it) 24 hours before Huffstool wrote about it. Yet WRKO shamelessly pretends like Barstool is a reliable source of information.
“Legit journalism” = interviewing Franklin, not calling him out on his bullshit, not researching his criminal past, and letting your intern run your social media pages and in turn embarrassing your radio station.
We did dispute the claim, and Barstool has 30 days to respond.
Apparently this is quite common. Pirates like Huffstool can claim that ANY video on the Internet belongs to them. It’s then up to the user to dispute it, and if Huffstool ignores them then you have to take them to court. Obviously suing a large company owned by the Chernin Group is something that is not financially feasible for independent media outlets like Turtleboy. So basically they do this because they know they can and YouTube allows it.
They’ve done this to many other people as well, but if you’re on Twitter and call them out on it they’ll try to make it right to save themselves from a lawsuit. We are not on Twitter, even though it’s clearly the public square. Although I hate Deadspin and think that they criticize Barstool for all the wrong reasons, they did write a good story on this the other day.
In comedian Miel Bredouw’s case, the site tried to wheedle her using a gift card. On Monday, Bredouw explained the bizarre saga, which started back in December, when Barstool reuploaded this video of hers. She asked Barstool for credit, and when she didn’t receive a response, she filed a DMCA takedown notice. According to Bredouw, no one from the site reached out to her until her complaint landed Barstool in some trouble with Twitter.
WOW. OK. THREAD ALERT.
I wasn't going to say anything because I am *above* drama but actually completely 10000% fuck Barstool Sports. if any legal ppl/twitter ppl want to help me out here, please hit me up. EITHER WAY, I HAVE A STORY FOR YOU ⬇️
— miel (@miel) March 4, 2019
Other people began coming forward too.
One of their major hockey podcasts took one of my videos and edited out my social media word mark and website and posted it… So I did the same as you. Keep fighting! They can afford to pay people for content
— Hockey Reviews (@HockeyReviewsCA) March 5, 2019
Barstool responded to this criticism on Twitter by basically saying, “come listen to us talk about this on our podcast.”
I’ll talk about it on radio tomorrow. No point getting into it on twitter. We were wrong and it’s a bad look. I’m honest about our fuck ups
— Big Cat (@BarstoolBigCat) March 5, 2019
I’ve always taken this approach. Nothing ever gets fixed on twitter. I’ve learned that lesson a million times over. This is the worst possible place to converse in a meaningful manner
— Big Cat (@BarstoolBigCat) March 5, 2019
Translation – give us more free clicks while we talk about stealing other people’s work.
They also stole original music from the Fenway Park organist, and when he had the audacity to complain about they ripped him too.
EPISODE 237: The Roast of Josh Kantor. @jtkantor ripped us on Twitter for using a clip of his as our intro. It's been on the show since 2015 and he never once asked us to pull it. We discuss why this guy sucks. That, spring training updates and much more! https://t.co/OXMc2aRHhZ pic.twitter.com/ldZJZ8d5TR
— Section 10 Podcast (@Section10Pod) March 5, 2019
Josh Kantor (the organist) responded in a friendly manner.
Hello gentlemen. I didn't rip you; I stated a fact about your show. I didn't know about the clip until two days ago; I figured you might mock me for asking about it, so I cut to the chase. Roast away, and steer clear of defamation. Wishing you happiness and good health. -Josh
— Josh Kantor (@jtkantor) March 5, 2019
And the Huffstool hack who once insinuated that Turtleboy was racist for not blindly believing Adam Jones’ lie about being called the n word at Fenway Park, called Kantor full of shit for not reaching out to Barstool about stealing his work.
I mean, you’re full of shit here. had you just reached out to us, we would’ve happily complied. you didn’t “cut to the chase” with your tweet. you jumped in on a Barstool hate thread for attention. don’t worry, we’re not using your song that’s actually someone else’s song anymore
— Jared Carrabis (@Jared_Carrabis) March 5, 2019
will do. but if you didn’t want attention then you would’ve contacted us privately to find a resolution. you chose to publicly pile on a Barstool hate thread.
— Jared Carrabis (@Jared_Carrabis) March 5, 2019
What they did to these people was different from what they did to us. In the first case they created a Twitter burner account that posts videos and images that are copyrighted, then they embed the tweets with videos and images that don’t belong to them into their blogs. This is actually perfectly legal since they’re not publishing someone else’s work, they’re just linking to a random Twitter page that is unaffiliated with them legally.
With the organist they used his music without his permission, but they didn’t deny him the ability to make money off of it. With us they did. They literally just took our work and were like “that’s mine now,” and YouTube apparently lets them. I highly doubt we’ll hear back from them and then we’re fucked because I don’t have the time and money to sue people over $120 in lost revenue.
But please, tell me more about how these big tech monopolies shouldn’t be regulated. They’ve allowed shitty companies like Huffstool to claim any video they want on the Internet as their own, and if you don’t like it tough shit. Makes sense.
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A website run by male feminists and women. Yeah I can’t see any reason to listen to them. Curious though reading through the commemts; why did it take so long for many of you to leave Barstool?
Triggered much?
VB with the tough talk LOL. Can you imagine using a derogatory nickname like VB which stands for Virgin Boy, coined by Howie Carr 20 years ago which was shaming him for being a virgin in his 20’s, as your signature calling card? Nobody knows VB’s real name, which his wife and kids actually prefer i bet. As soon as he’s let go by wrko, once they find a no pay advertiser to take the 12-3 slot slinging financial advice, he’s gonna be contacting turtle boy looking for a blogger position and hosting podcasts. What are his ratings, 0.1 if that??
It’s Doug Goudy. He lives in Boxford.
“Monetize”
Lol, get a real job.
How jealous are you of Portnoy?
Can we get the names of the people at Barstool who are actually responsible for this theft? Home addresses would be helpful as well.
If it was a Content ID call, then the money (if any) goes into escrow until it is worked out.
If it is Copyright infringement, Youtubes policy I believe is 3-strikes and you are gone from Youtube.
Content ID is handled a lot by Bots by Youtube. They changed their algorithm. There’s companies with multiple Youtube channels that have had automated Content ID call outs from one channel on another of their channels.
If it is Content ID and you can show you had it before it showed up under Bar Stool you should be ok.
There’s one Youtube channel I subscribe to that played some music done by the US Armed Forces band.
Warner Music said they owned it. He said “Go Fuck Yourself, this is a public domain presentation of the music”.
Guy got so pissed off he dropped the # of subscriptions counter to his channel which cost him money.
Also, isn’t too thrilled with Patreon and their attitude on freedom of speech. He got pissed over Patreon dumping “Sargon of Akkad” and I don’t even think he agrees with most of the “Sargon of Akkad” says. Guy has maybe 1.2 million subscribers.
If you are into the guts of power tools or want to watch someone learn how to operate a Haas CNC machine, look up AvE on youtube. Goes by the name of Uncle BumbleFuck. No one knows what he looks like, you only see his hands and hear his voice. The CNC videos are works of art when played to a music soundtrack. He bought the CNC (easily over a $100K with options) with his Youtube earnings.
Language wise, he would make most of us here blush. Guy is smart as fuck.
Barstool jumped the shark. Cannot stand the talentless bloggers, I’m lookin at you Liz g, Nate, Trent, gay pat etc, it used to be so good. Now, sheesh, podcast city, no thanks. I listened for five minutes to the two whores who talk sex. If that was my daughter, I’d be blowing my brains out, vapid, useless twats. Miss old balls tho, he’s the best of the bunch. See ya pres., it’s been since you took over the comment section and I don’t miss it. Count your shekels Dave. Douche
I know people who made a career from stealing other peoples shit. Get out in front of it to block. My work is copyrighted and I know other people would steal it….
Any chance this is just a hater claiming to be Bar Stool and filing the complaint to YouTube?
I like PornTube better anyway.
Deleted barstool when they got rid of comments, they couldn’t dilute the comments on how bad the site has become. Portnoy is a giant vagina
Portnoy went the Howard Stern route, i’m a celebrity now,these are my friends.
A couple of fucking cunts
Barstool sucks. Their readers are retarded and el presidente is a faggot that should be in jail for child porn.
VB is a fat fucking poser.
Sincerely,
Cuckboy supreme
Barstool is horrible. I used to read them everyday like 4-5 years ago. Then they started being liberal whinny cunts. A bunch of college SJWs. The bigger that website got the way worse it became. However I’m 42 years old so maybe I just got to old for it. I certainly could be out of touch with their writers now a days. Who knows. Either way I maintain that they suck.
I think it’s them who are out of touch.
The site sucks now.
Yeah it’s the Trump sucks choo choo train site. Didn’t know they were all liberal chucks. I remember when Portnose made fun of butch feminists and shit. Kinda surprised at the Libby drum beat on a supposed humor site since libs usually lack a sense of humor.
Barfstool Sports and Jussie Baxley, what a combination.
The bigger issue for Barstool was they didn’t want another DMCA strike against them, because after 5 or 6 strikes, Twitter deactivates the account. And, as the OP mentioned in her tweet thread, she was probably their 5th strike.
Fu@k Barstool.
#MAGA
I haven’t been on Barstool since they wanted me to pay to comment. I mean I already bought stuff from them worth twice as much as the annual fee, but then their bloggers are not celebrities and my cat writes better than their illiterate morons. The only reason I went to the site was to make fun of all their not so hot “chicks” and idiot prose. Also all their shit became these cringeworthy “podcasts” which are useless to me because it would be unprofessional of me to wear headphones in the office, and I’m not subscribing to fucking Sirius. Also I don’t get the “schtick” anymore. Their shit is not “cool” or “funny” like who cares?
Agreed, I also ceased using their site when the paid comments approach was implemented.
I’m not going to pay to make fun of a bunch of soy-boy cuck writers.
Barstool SUCKS. How jealous are they
Dog park diane is going to sue your pants off for defamation and turtle turd is going to lose ! and she ain’t gunna settle out of court but demand a jury trial
STFU and GTFO.
F@ggot.
Go sniff some coke with your pittie ‘Franklin’
“Those who become the most upset are often the most guilty”
Wise saying there
And all the while you are on your knees sucking cock for all you’re worth to get to the gravy you so richly deserve.
it’s DEFORMATION, nitwit.
Time for Attorney Richard N Vulva to issue Cease and Desist order to Barstool sports. Ima call my lawyer right after Ima done my nails…
Troll.
Is SIDEBOTTOM your preferred camera angle, too? You seem a little butt hurt. I see what you did there talking about pants off and turds.