Blackstone Killer Mom Erika Murray’s “Mentally Insane” Defense Is Bullshit And So Is The Fact Her Boyfriend Isn’t In Jail Too

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So this whole thing that’s going on in Blackstone right now might be the most insane story I’ve ever heard. In case you haven’t seen in the news here’s a run down of what’s known:

  • Erika Murray and her boyfriend Ray Rivera lived what appeared to be a normal life with their two kids, aged 13 and 10, in the small town of Blackstone MA.
  • In their house were two other living children aged 3 and 6 months. No one apparently knew they existed.
  • The six month old girl is not reacting well to sunlight because she likely have never been outside. She also does not hold onto people when she is held, which indicates that she has never had human contact before.
  • The three year old child had long hair that had never been cut. When he was discovered he was sitting in a bed, badly sunken from being soaked by his own feces and urine. He cannot communicate or talk. 
  • When the children were discovered it was determined that they were “starving.”
  • The house had no electricity or running water.
  • Several skeletons of dead cats and dogs were found in the house.
  • The house was infested with maggots and other vermin. Soiled diapers were stacked up to the ceiling.
  • The children were discovered by a neighbor whose 13 year old son is friends with the 10 year old boy that lived in the house. She was tipped off when she asked her “how do you stop a baby from crying.”
  • The 10 year old told the neighbor that he had a popsicle for breakfast and was hungry.
  • The neighbor went to the house and the ten year old told her the two other children were not his siblings, and that his mother was “baby sitting” them.
  • Upon leaving the house the neighbor confronted Erika Murray who was just arriving home. Murray told her, “I don’t know why you’re upset. I only left them alone for two hours.” (which is perfectly fucking normal apparently)
  • When the police arrived they found a locked door in the child’s bedroom which they kicked in, causing an unbearable smell to emerge. Later in hazmat suits officers discovered the remains of at least three other deceased children. Their ages and identities are unknown.
  • Murray has been arrested. Her boyfriend, Ray Rivera, who is her children’s father, has not.
  • Murray’s lawyer is claiming that his client has a mental illness.


Alright, first of all it goes without saying that this woman is a vile piece of human garbage. With that being said, this is the most bizarre and insane story I’ve ever heard. I know this is big news around here, but this should be the story that everyone in the country is talking about. This is Casey Anthony on steroids!!

Think of all the mystery involved in this fiasco. How are there no birth records for the two living children? How old are the deceased children? Where are their birth records? They are obviously all her kids, because if they weren’t there would’ve been an Amber alert by now. People just don’t lose small children and say “fuck it.” It’s kind of a big deal. So she definitely has at least seven kids that we know of, and yet she only publicly claimed to have two kids.

Oh yea, and her Facebook is the most insane part about this. She carried on like a normal person. Her latest post was a quote from an Iggy Azalea song:

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Oh yea, and another thing that I can’t stand when people do on Facebook is when they tell me about what they’re having for dinner. Because I was totally fucking wondering what you were gonna shove down your gullet before you took a giant smash. Erika Murray was one of those people:

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Get over yourself woman. But seriously, how fucking insane is this? A woman whose house was covered in maggots and whose kids eat popsicles for breakfast, acts like she’s Julia fucking Child on Facebook. People who write about what they just cooked for dinner might be extremely annoying, but more often than not they’re really good mothers.

What’s really eerie is the post about making bourbon chicken and roasted potatoes was made in February of 2014. This would be right around the time she would’ve given birth to a six month old child. No mention of that whatsoever.

Oh yea, and she pretended to be a caring mother who was worried about the well-being of all children….except of course her own:

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Then there was this post from last month:

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Yea, I’d say so. You know who probably had a worse day? Your fucking kids. The one’s who are being denied access to basic health care and food. By you. But yea, I’m sure your day was really fucking horrible.

Or how about this one:

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Yea kids are such an aggravation aren’t they? They don’t take “no” for an answer. Like when they ask for food and sunlight and you tell them no, they won’t stop whining about it. Mom’s busy smoking crack and collecting from the government. Can’t you kids just make yourself a hot pocket and play on your iPads?

This one was pretty telling:

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Yea, why do children always act like children? I hate when I reproduce and then my kid acts like a kid. Can’t they just be born as adults? You know, like Erika Murray was. Why are they shitting in their pants? Shouldn’t they come out potty trained? Why do they need food and water? Can’t they take care of that themselves? Well Erika Murray is DONE with the free ride that you six month old welfare babies think your’e entitled to!!

This was the real gem:

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Can you possibly have said something that came back to bite you more than this? This excrementitious excuse for a human being wrote this while the corpses of her own children rotted in her house and her other children were covered in maggots and their own feces.

Check out the comment she left on this post from back in May:

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So the two kids who she acknowledges the existence of aren’t home. Of course this makes her “incredibly bored.” Because God knows the other children in the house just aren’t nearly enough entertainment for her. All they do is cry and whine. She expressed this same sentiment three years ago:

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The kid they found upstairs was three years old. That means he was born right around this time. And what newborn mother isn’t “bored” when they have a brand new child? They don’t even get 100’s on their spelling tests like her favorite children do.

And there’s nothing hypocritical about this post whatsoever:

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Your Mom will “always be there for you.” Well, unless you cry a lot and shit yourself. Then Mom is gonna leave you home alone while you festoon in your own filth and deprive you of a normal childhood. But God damnet you better LOVE your mom NO MATTER WHAT!! She posted this while the children she killed were rotting in her house. Nice lady.

Check out this list she wrote last year:

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She gets annoyed in crowded places? Yea, I hate when kids get in the way like that. Fuck it. Just leave em home alone and come back after you’re done with your next bender. And I’m so glad that Nick and Kayla bring her so much happiness. All the other kids can go fuck themselves. And she likes being “left alone.” And who can blame her? Those pesky kids kept demanding her attention when all she wanted to do was just be left alone to do whatever selfish things she wanted to do. #girlsnight

She’s fucked with #4 though isn’t she? Oh you care what people think of you? LOL. Sucks for you. Because you are literally the most hated and vilified person on the planet.


As you can see from her Facebook she only acknowledges the existence of two of her children. That is bizarre beyond words. Like, if you made a movie about this (and make no mistake about it – there will be a Lifetime movie about this), I would probably say that that movie sucked because it was too far-fetched. It’s just not believable that a parent would carry on publicly as a good mother for two of her children while the rest of them systematically were murdered. Makes no sense. That would never happen in real life.

But it did. And obviously there is a lot more that has to come out about this. My question is, why isn’t the dad under arrest IMMEDIATELY??? Did I miss something here? Am I to believe that the guy who lived in this house, and whose mother OWNS the house, had no fucking clue that at least four of HIS CHILDREN were slowly dying in the place that he called home? Am I to believe that his girlfriend of at least 15 years was pregnant on several occasions and gave birth without him knowing? Because there’s no birth records for these kids, which means of course that they were born IN THE HOUSE. Like Abraham fucking Lincoln!!

Somehow dad missed all of that. That’s what the fact that he isn’t in jail right now tells me. How the hell is that possible? If you don’t think dad knew what mom was up to then you need to get your ass down to downtown Worcester and see me, because I have the deed to a horse ranch in Nantucket that you need to sign before someone else beats you to it!! Don’t worry, it doesn’t look anything like this:


Oh yea, and it’s an absolute fucking joke that the knee jerk reaction to every fucked up crime like this is a “mental illness.” Fuck that. I read what she wrote on Facebook. She’s a million times mre literate than everyone else I blog about.

She doesn’t have a “mental illness.” She’s just a selfish crazy beyoch. She comes first. Kids come second. Well, at least everyone born after 2004. I’m so sick of every person who commits a heinous crime having a “mental illness.” It’s such a cop out. It works on the general public because we look at a situation like this and say “that’s crazy – only a crazy person could be capable of doing something like this. This woman needs help.”

Fuck that. Just because we can’t comprehend how someone can do something so vile doesn’t mean they have a mental illness. This isn’t a woman that throws cats at trains. This is a sane individual who was smart enough to know how to publicly carry on as a functional human being despite having these secrets at home.

I’m opposed to the death penalty on principal. Call me a pansy ass liberal, but I just don’t believe in it. However, this makes me reconsider. This woman doesn’t deserve to live. She killed her own kids and would’ve killed two more if it weren’t for her concerned neighbor. Anyone capable of doing that doesn’t deserve to live. Waterboard the shit out of her first in order to get her to confess the truth about this whole story. Then send her straight to the electric chair. Problem solved. 

Anyway, I’m sure we haven’t heard the last of this story. You’re gonna here a lot of opinions about it, but as usual you know where to come if you want hot takes on this INSANE local story. 


Feel free to share your thoughts to keep the conversation going. 

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123 Comment(s)
  • December 31, 2014 at 9:37 am

    Dude I know this angers and disturbs you. It bothers me too. I can’t get the images of those suffering babies out of my head. The way this works is, if the woman knew the difference between right and wrong, she’s not criminally insane and can be punished. My guess is she will be. Yes, I think she knew the difference between right and wrong and I think she should go to jail for murder. But let’s be honest–I don’t think she’s a sadistic murderer who kills for sport–I think she’s a sick woman. Don’t worry, her life as a free person will soon be over, but we should take no pleasure in the vengeance of it. There are no winners here.

  • saylor
    October 4, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    @ heather, i do not know these people but i live close enough ( about 15 mins away) to hear from other people and i have been keeping updated on the case. i believe the witness intimidation was done to the woman ( the children and animals hero) who found the babies in the home.

    • heather
      October 5, 2014 at 1:50 am

      Thank you for your response Saylor, I truly appreciate it. I guess I still wonder what could have been said to this poor woman, whom had helped the innocent. I an utterly broken by this situation, and I do not even live in the same state

  • heather
    September 30, 2014 at 11:49 pm

    To anyone who knows this situation personally,or more about this case than I do… may I ask a question? This may seem unrelated, but specifically, what did she do to “intimidate a witness” ? . I know those were charges filed on top of the other heinous things, which were brought to the knowledge of the public. I never had read anything on this. Was this intimidation towards her children to never disclose the situation, the neighbor? I was just wondering of the details of that specific charge. I am not here to be mean to anyone, or play grammar nazi, or anything of that nature. It is just something that puzzled me, and forgive me if it was not obviously apparent. I am not trying shift the nature of this blogg away from it’s intended purpose. Amongst other things people brought up in these comments…I am just thinking that one who were to intimidate a witness, would know she had done wrong. So if someone could shed some light on this one charge I would appreciate it.

    • Flabbergasted
      December 31, 2014 at 11:19 am

      Hi Heather, I know you posed this question so long ago that you probably forgot about it. I do believe that the youngest two are in state custody because they need such extensive therapy. They were both kept in dark rooms and were so malnourished and underdeveloped that the 3 year old couldn’t walk or use utensils to feed herself. They are probably going through some extensive physical therapy (among other things). That is just my guess. I don’t think the paternal grandmother turned them away or anything, though. I would actually be very interested in adopting/fostering these children and working on their therapy with them, to be perfectly honest. I do know that there are foster families who are equipped to work on these kinds of cases.

  • saylor
    September 24, 2014 at 10:17 am

    so i just heard that the house of horrors needs to be knocked down… and the owner never showed up to the meeting she was supposed to attend last night that was about her home and the future of it. dont you think that this situation is important enough that she should have showed up??? this is just one more thing that shows the character of this family. im discusted with all these people. i hope these children are adopted into a nice family in a whole other state so these poor children never have to see that property or any of these monsters again.

    • heather
      October 5, 2014 at 1:08 pm

      I hope the same Saylor. I am a mother of 5, and grandmother to 1. I wonder why the paternal grandmother did not take in the other two. As earth shattering as this situation is for them, and even though the grandparents had no relationship with the other two, I just could not picture myself turning away my other two grandchildren, they would be my blood. This whole thing is incredibly puzzling to me

  • DDD
    September 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    She also created a Facebook page for the fake mother of her 2 youngest children. She had convinced everyone that they were not her children even her own family and 2 oldest. The house is owned by the sister of Ramon Riveria, he took residents in the basement. They both gave statements saying that was where he mainly lived, and that’s the reason he has not been arrested in connection with any of this. Riveria was arrested and released, but only on a few drug charges. Both of them go back to court in October. Everyone has their opinions, but the 3 deceased babies autopsies have not been released. Nobody knows if they were still born or murdered.
    This whole thing has rocked this community!!! I can’t imagine what those poor children are going through, I’m so glad the youngest children got help when they did, and they are both in foster care right now and getting all the medical attention they need.
    I fear for the oldest, now that they know what is going on they are going to have their world spinning around.
    This woman is insane!!! I think she knew what she was doing!!! You have to have some kind of mental issues to do all of what she did, but I think it all came from drugs!!

  • Tami
    September 19, 2014 at 12:02 am

    This is really sad. My heart breaks for those children ALL of them! I can not fathom not bringing my child outside, or ever holding them. I am a mother of four…They are such precious beings, ALL children are a blessing!! I do not agree with mentally ill…She functioned enough totake “some” care in two… atleast acknowledged their existance…she just did not care. She did not care about or for any others. Poor little ones…How many times they must have cried, and felt so alone, and scared, and nobody was there 🙁 And those poor dead children, having to suffer the way the other ones did until finally no food, warmth, touch, love, or changing killed them. I am so happy that neighbor didnt give up, and the chance those other four have now. Chances are they will live with a deep scar and many painful memories, but i hope they find a loving family. I have NO respect or sympathy at all for this women….NONE!

  • September 17, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    You forgot to mention how right after the 4 beautiful angels were finally removed from this monsters rampage that her mother posted on her page ” shhhh the babies are crying” and her response LOLOL. This woman should be put in one of those contraptions that allow everyone who wants to to throw stones and bricks and kicks and punches at her. She is a disgrace to the human race and to all mothers out there. DIE BITCH DIE

  • gel
    September 17, 2014 at 9:22 am

    This women should die a very painful death make her sit in her shit for a while and piss and never get changed. Being a mother of three kids and seeing this stort makes me sick she cares nore about herself then anything else. Which is sick you put those children on this earth grow up and take responsibilities for your children. When i found out i was pregnant with my first child i was 16 and my nom looked at me and said you made your bed now you lay in it and that is what i have been doing taking care of all three of my kids. With the hwlp of my loving husband. The poor babies all i am saying is the bitch sjould get tourtered like the poor little babies got starve her dobt let her get clean. Crazy my ass. This just sickens me.

  • stacy goodenough
    September 16, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    I must say I have read every article and comment since the first story…I have cried through every article and half the comments I have read…For the first time since this story has broke..I cracked a the mother of two beutiful daughters..I am also an aunt to n any nieces and nephews and am known as the one who will drop everything to babysit or help anyone I know with children…thus story is disturbing and discusting. .and finally…brutal honesty I am tired of seeing excuses or reading you dont understand mental knew enough to lie cover your tracks and try to hide your children…then you know everything you did was against the law..I am ecstatic too see an article that hit the nail on the head…Thank you for writing this and acknowledging that those babies are the priority in thus situation. ..not shes crazy cause she couldnt clean up…

  • ty123
    September 16, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    I have never been on one of these but I just wanna say something. As a mother, and someone who works in a daycare, this makes me more angry than I could ever explain. If I even explained what I thought of this woman, I would sound like a fucking mental case as well. I just have no single idea how anyone could do this.

    Anyways I just read some of the comments, and I keep seeing ‘mental illness’ and all I really wanted to say is fuck that. I’ve met people with some severe mental illnesses and this piece of shit woman took it to an extreme. Like obviously she has mental problems, she’s a fucking scumbag lunatic. Her being fucked in the head doesn’t change what she has done. Anyone who has ever abandoned their children, killed their children etc etc is obviously mentally ill but I have NO sympathy.

    She knew what she was doing was wrong. Also I saw something about some women having severe post partum depression. That extreme and 5 times in a row? Again I say fuck that and there is no way.

    Now I’m not a doctor or psychologist and these are just my opinions. I only know about this situation what I’ve read on here and some news sites, but even if she is, which she obviously is mentally ill beyond belief, it doesn’t make me feel sad for her or like she deserves any less of a punishment than any other waste of life like herself.

  • GrandWizard Ultra Dragon King of the South
    September 16, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    One more thing for the ignorant to use against being white.

    • Quinn
      September 17, 2014 at 12:49 pm

      You mean just like everything one black person does is used against every single black person on the planet? That’s pretty ignorant too. I’m black and white, and don’t agree with either races being racist. But to be so hypocritical makes you even more ignorant.

  • Sarah
    September 16, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    You probably should have blurred her kids’ names from her Facebook posts before publishing this. The children’s identities should be protected.

    September 16, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Just saying my daughter is the Abby in the early FB posts from Erika and I can tell you as someone who has been to that house numerous times (never inside mind you) only to pick up Kayla who was always waiting on the front porch. Ray, the father lived in the basement and worked approximately 55-60 hours per week and NEVER went upstairs, I also find this hard to believe that you did not hear a child crying two floors up. They were NOT on welfare just incase anyone would like the actual facts. I know for a fact that Erika hid her first pregnancy when she was 18 and a senior in high school, nobody knew she was 8 months pregnant when they graduated because she did then and still does wear sweat pants and extremely large t shirts at all times (met her only twice in person) again on the front porch. I am shocked, saddened, disgusted and outraged that this was going on in our town 600 ft from the police station, and is now being reported has been called to that home 29 times since 2009? WTF is all I have to say, mental illness is not a joke and yes I agree there are 10000s of cases where that is used as a defense when it absoutely should not be. Highly intelligent people are known to be mentally ill, look it up, do some ressearch. She deserves to rot in jail, no doubt about it, what she did is deplorable, but please. Get your facts straight people.

  • shy
    September 16, 2014 at 11:05 am

    WOW I have no idea how anyone can do this to any child. I have 3 boys that drive me insane 2 of which are autistic and never once am I so agitated to the point where i ignore my kids till they die or hurt them for that matter. And seriously keeping a child in a dark room for most of its life is so messed up I have a six month old and I couldn’t imagine leaving him a dark room all alone. Really how did this couple keep this secret for so long without anybody knowing about this. And starving a kid is not right I believe this woman deserves the worst possible punishment allowed by law. I feel so bad for what these children have had to go through. They deserve by far a better family who can support them and give them the life that they deserve.

  • Jlm88
    September 16, 2014 at 12:02 am

    Fry her

  • SK
    September 15, 2014 at 11:21 pm

    First I wanna say I think this disgusting human being should get the death penalty for what she’s done, second I just wanna say as a reader I feel you kind of let your anger get the best of you in this article. I’m not a profession writer (although I’d like to be) but I believe that if you’re going to write about something, it’s one thing to channel your emotions and use them to help you write from the heart, but it’s another thing to kind of let your anger spill out into an already solid article, making it look a bit sloppy. I don’t mean to tell you how to do your job it’s just that time and time again I see writers let their emotions get the best of them and kind of ruin articles that could have otherwise been very solid and informative.

  • September 15, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    You know CPS will give Adrian Peterson’s kids to her.

  • Keiry
    September 15, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    You fcking talk to much, shes horrible get over it

  • Kim
    September 15, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    I hate people like you who assume that only people on welfare are capable of this. There is no evidence she was on assistance. I’m on assistance due toa bad run of health and i provide a clean and living gimme for my children. They eat before I do, bathe every day, and are being educated properly. Don’t worry about being called a liberal for not believing in the death penalty. Your opinion of people on public assistance proves you are more cruel and conservative. Ŷour “facts” are askew, and you are not a mental health expert so you cannot possibly say whether or not this person is struggling with a severe mental illness. While I believe her actions are nothing short of deplorable, I’m going wait to pass full judgement until she had been assessed by the Department of Mental Health. I’m just happy that the surviving children are in a better place and hope the deceased children receive a proper burial as they so richly deserve.

    • oh
      September 15, 2014 at 4:24 pm

      Here, here Kim. It must be nice to be like turtleboy n all his fans here who can never lose their job, become injured, or in need of public assistance for some reason or another, oh wait he’s not God or superman. Might wanna rethink attacking the needy or karma might put your ass right next to them!!!

      • Finnish goalie
        September 17, 2014 at 9:33 am

        So, defend honest recipients of public aid (very fair and right), fight against generalizations of these people, and then assume everyone who comes to this blog more than once must be “cruel or conservative,” and knows no hardships.

        Know a number of blue collar boys (and girls) that would die before going on public aid and wouldn’t even take money from their friends such as me. Not the only way to do it, but many opinions out there, don’t sell your argument short with hypocritical comments.

  • denise
    September 15, 2014 at 10:18 am

    ummm obviously the house had electricity if she was talking on fb and the children were eating popsicles. Of course i am not defending this monster or her sick boyfriend but some of these ” facts” do not make any sense.

    • Phillip Scolardi
      September 15, 2014 at 10:20 pm

      They sell popsicles at the store (you can even get them with your EBT cards)… And cell phones have facebook.
      …And before you try to ask “How did she charge her phone without electric?”, i will answer that question. Car charger.

  • jess
    September 15, 2014 at 7:14 am

    These days everyone is considered to have a mental illness. If your stressed out and are moody therapists are quick to say you have bipolar. I have been dealing with what everyone calls mental illness since a teenager, now in my 30’s, I to have been diagnosed with MPD ( multiple personality disorder), bipolar, post tramatic stress ( from sexual abuse as a child), and major depressive disorder. But I also know right from wrong and have three children who absolutely drive me crazy but could never put my kids in harms way. So claiming a mentally ill defense is ridiculous. To many people in this country get away with these horrible crimes they comit and go to a mental hospital where they get so called counseling and sadated with medications to make them ” normal”. And who pays for these murders and low lifes… hmm yea the people who actually work there asses off to survive and pay taxes. Not everyone in the world can sit and collect welfare have baby after baby just to abuse the system. What about these other 3 kids there fucked for life. The way they lived was normal for them which is scary they unfortunately will be all messed up and they to will end up being considered mentally ill with post tramatic stress. Its a vicious circle. Hopefully they can get these children placed and give them some kind of child hood. But with as many children dcyf in ri already have with not enough families willing to take in children its not likely. These kids will be bounced around from foster home to foster home, its unbelievably sad. There needs to be bigger punishments for these so called ” mentally ill” people who commit horrific crimes. The system needs to change! This is no different then the sick people who shoot up schools. Your cant tell me people that she knew or spoke to didnt know what was going on. Thats just foolish.this system is a joke. Casey anothony has a movie about her now shes a famous monster. And im sure this pathetic excuse of a mother will become famous for her acts. All they are showing people is how to get away with your bad life choices. There should be better punishments for murders instead of all the taxpayers in america having to keep these assholes in jail and feeding them. They get 3 hots and a cot in jail. Our jails are over populated as it is.. this c**t deserves to suffer just like she made those kids suffer all of them. If those babies were still born maybe they’d be alive if they were born in a medical setting or she has medical attention while pregnant. This is a sad world we live in and they are making I easier for people to get away with horric crimes. How many innocent children have to suffer before things change. Would want history to repeat its self with the next generations.

    • stephanie
      September 15, 2014 at 7:34 am

      I agree 100%.

      September 15, 2014 at 10:48 am

      HAS ANYONE DONE A REVERSE PICTURE SEARCH OF SOME OF THE PICS ON HER PAGE? I’m just wondering if some are stolen internet pictures that she put up to keep a facade. in these pics the counters and stuff look clean.

      • Kryss
        September 15, 2014 at 10:24 pm

        Look above that picture with the chore bucket… she shared a link from another page. I would bet anything that she has nothing like that in her house. Obviously she isn’t making her children do chores, or picking up after them. If she was, her house wouldn’t be covered in filth.

  • Jill
    September 15, 2014 at 12:26 am

    I don’t think the two youngest are hers. I think another crappy mom dropped them off with her and she just didn’t want to deal with it. I’m definitely interested to hearing what more comes into media light but before drawing conclusions of our own I think there is much more to this story. The dead babies, who knows maybe they were still births and she just stashed them away – a “mother” can go into a deep post partum and still just carry on like things always were by focusing solely on her two oldest BUT what I have an issue with is family members, facebook friends, the school!! Not ONE person noticed something out of place? Or are we really a society that turns the other way just so we don’t appear nosey. Lots of un- answered questions. But my opinion to the initial poll in the article: yes, I think she is mentally ill but no there is no helping – she is beyond that point so just give her the punishment she deserves and let her think on it – that to me sounds like the best way to cure her mental illness.

  • x
    September 15, 2014 at 12:17 am

    There are those that have legit mental illness…and then there are those who kill babies and let their surviving children live in their own feces and starve… There should be no controversy in these comments, this women is filth. If someone comments on this, protesting that we should consider her plea for mental illness then they are insane themselves.

    • emily
      September 15, 2014 at 1:56 am

      I think if you are truly mentally ill is one thing, what she did is not. She should be punished, it’s wrong on so many levels. I don’t defend her, not at all.

  • Moi
    September 15, 2014 at 12:14 am

    While I agree with your sentiments, there are a few facts that are incorrect. The three year old is a girl, not a boy. The 6 month old is actually 5 months old. We don’t know exactly when in 2011 the three year old was born- so your claims connecting it to an August Facebook post are not reliable.

    I get that this is a blog post and not an actual news article, but exaggerating things and not getting facts correct takes away your credibility. Just saying.

    • September 15, 2014 at 2:59 am

      omg everything she has done and u are worried about dates?????????

    • Paul
      September 15, 2014 at 8:51 am

      Are you really serious! Does it matter if the poor child was a boy or a girl, does it matter if the child was 5 or 6 months old, and when the children we’re born! This is an outrageous abuse and murder of innocent children, and your picking holes in individual comments. You should be pointing that critical finger at the social system in America that allows this kind of thing to happen. And are you saying in this Utopian world that you must reside in, the media never publish facts that are incorrect or exaggerated! JUST SAYING!!!!

    • The Devil's Advocate
      September 15, 2014 at 12:04 pm

      Based on all the news reports, which should be reported as facts BUT not always are, the writer of this opinion piece focused on what was reported, and in the beginning it was reported that it was a three year old boy, and a 6 month old baby. Also just saying.

    • Julie
      September 16, 2014 at 6:31 am

      This isn’t a courtroom, it’s a blog

  • Maura Gomez
    September 14, 2014 at 11:59 pm

    Lol why is cinnamonface so offended?!? Like are you her best friend or did you have something to do with this craziness? You definitely sound guilty!!

  • emily
    September 14, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    Ok first of all you should not be putting people’s Facebook statuses out to the public. You are violating people’s privacy, and taking things out of context. Second of all I’m not defending her, but is not right to judge someone based on Facebook. When someone usually says “I’m sick of childish behavior” it’s because adults are acting like children. Not children acting like children.
    Also I knew her in school, she wasn’t like this. Ever. I grew up with her and these people that you’re exploiting from Facebook. If your going to say something, say only the facts. Don’t make shit up to fit your agenda.
    What she did was wrong and totally unforgivable, but that doesn’t give you the right to be a total ass and make shit up. She will gets what’s coming her way. She will be punished for this no doubt, and she should be. Something must have happened to her to get this way. But justice will come to those children without you making up your own opinions based on your twisted logic.

    • Wabbitt
      September 14, 2014 at 11:09 pm

      How dare he invade her privacy by reposting the things she said publicly on Facebook! Where the entire world can see everything…

      Oh wait…

    • x
      September 15, 2014 at 12:02 am


      • emily
        September 15, 2014 at 1:53 am

        No NOT Erika, the poeple she talks to. I know a lot of these people because we all went to school together. It’s the other people.
        Erika lost her right to privacy the second she got arrested. I think the police have the right to go through all that stuff, not some random blogger. That’s all I’m saying. I’m defending the other people, NOT HER.
        She deserves whatever is coming for what she did.

    • September 15, 2014 at 12:08 pm

      When your FB statuses are made public, they ARE public. There is NO violation of privacy here.

    • Jamie
      September 15, 2014 at 12:10 pm

      As soon as you post something on a public setting it’s out there, that’s why it’s called PUBLIC. Anyone commenting on a public post is also going to see that and if they didn’t bother to check then it couldn’t have been a concern. None of these people knew anyways, it’s not like they were conspiring with her. They were just as duped as anyone.

      • emily
        September 15, 2014 at 12:16 pm

        I agree, we all were. Any of us that knew her. I just don’t think this person should be twisting around Facebook posts to benefit their own agenda. Just state facts. What she did was so wrong, and she should be punished. Just do it the right way, and not make everyone who knew her seem to be the worst people on the face of the earth too. Yes I’m a Facebook friends, I went to school with her all my life. But, I also haven’t seen her since we graduated 13 yrs ago. So it’s not right that people say Facebook friends should have known and done something. Punish her like she should be, that’s all I’m saying.

    • September 16, 2014 at 6:33 am

      She lost ALL right to privacy. P.S. Public Facebook posts are the opposite of private.

    • September 16, 2014 at 6:54 pm

      It’s a blog not a news article, he’s supposed to share his opinions

    • September 16, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      Oh and look at websites like buzzfeed and even huffington post they use facebook/twitter statuses all the time…where have you been ‘friend’… There’s no issue of privacy here at all. Obviously something about this article bothered you but I doubt it was either of those things because it shouldn’t be, your reading a blog and facebook is fair game, you really weren’t aware? You have no solidity in your argument at all.

    • sick of the sick and twisted
      September 17, 2014 at 12:07 am

      She has nor deserves privacy. …. ur friend is a douche bagg

  • Cera
    September 14, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    I’m actually a Blackstone native and worked at the only ice cream store in town for 6 years, up until this year. Erika Murray came to my work almost everyday with Kayla and Nick to get Slushies. They always paid in change. They were also very polite. In the six years I worked there, i now know I saw her while she was pregnant but, no one could tell. My boss and I always talked about how we couldn’t tell if she just fat or pregnant. Her weight also fluctuated a lot.

  • Sam
    September 14, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    I live exactly 2 houses down on the same side of the street of where this horrific event happened. They are claiming that she has Multiple Personality Disorder, which would mean she has experienced some abuse, mostly sexual. MPD is rare and I’d believe it. She would always wear the same clothes and sit on the porch watching her two public kids play. People are exaggerating about how the house smelled from the outside. I’ve walked by there countless times to get to the park behind the police station and no smell. The windows were always closed with the curtains drawn. I am absolutely horrified that this Casey-Anthony-on-steroids got away with this for so long. I’ve been here 10 years and the youngest public child is 10. I can’t believe this has been happening as long as I’ve been here. I’m against the death penalty too, but I want this woman to rot in hell. I bet she’s getting major shit in prison right about now, I hear people don’t take well to people who hurt children. I always did think it was strange that the 2 kids were always outside playing on my street. We just thought they were weird. Nothing appeared outwardly wrong. But that just goes to show you never do really know your neighbors.
    There are some truly evil people in the world and mental illness, real or not, doesn’t excuse evil.

    Other than this asshole, Blackstone in a nice town, so don’t let this woman distort how you think of this town. I know people are saying “I wonder how many other houses are like this in Blackstone.”

  • Emma Nelson
    September 14, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    Just because she is smart and literate doesnt mean she is mentally unstable. Many sociopaths and sexual sadists are some of the smartest, well behaved, and manipulative people out there. They might be sick in the head but know how to blend in and hide it. It has nothing to do with cognitive function. Your rant is justified yet your reasoning isnt sound.

    • Shirley Zee
      September 15, 2014 at 9:32 pm

      Your grammar sucks! Go back and edit your first line for clarity! Not too literate yourself now, are you?!?

  • Val
    September 14, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to say every damned word that we’ve all been thinking. She’s not mentally insane, she knew exactly what she was doing. The problem is, the two youngest weren’t supposed to be as strong willed and live. I only wonder how old the other 3 were. She’s a POS and while I too am not a fan of the death penalty? The 3 dead babies probably weren’t either. But maybe karma will strike back x 3.
    I’ve read some of the most graphic books on child abuse and neglect but this chick takes the cake. ” A Boy Named It” was pretty bad but this chick is far more demented than the mother in that book! Twisted douchebag! And I have to wonder? How many more children would she have had if she wasn’t caught?!?!?

  • K8
    September 14, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    I hope, more than anything, that those 2 older kids NEVER read this. Imagine the impact this will have on those 2 innocent children. This article borderline blames them. Are you kidding me? They are children. Yes, this is a terrible thing. But those two children certainly did not choose their life. They had nothing to do with their mom’s choices, whether they be crazy or evil. Think before you publish next time.

    • Wabbitt
      September 14, 2014 at 10:47 pm

      In what universe does this even remotely blame the kids for their abominable excuse for parents? Did you actually read it, or did you just take the first mention of the kids as them being blamed?

    • September 16, 2014 at 6:36 am

      That is the LEAST of their worries. Get a grip.

  • oh
    September 14, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    I suffer from mental illness and battle with it every day as a single mother of 3. You gonna burn me at the stake too? I am extremely intelligent and highly functional for someone who has survived as much trauma as I have ask any one of my therapists including those right down the road in Woonsocket. I am not defending this woman but i find it appalling you would “fry her ass” without at least hearing her defense. It’s people like you that make people like me still afraid to reach out for help, dome of us don’t believe we deserve it. And how come you’re not blasting the police eho were literally right next door. Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

    • Jjo
      September 14, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      Many of us suffer from mental illnesses. And I do mean suffer. We do however know the difference between right and wrong and most of us have more compassion for our fellow human beings bc of our suffering. This person has no remorse, no empathy, and no right to have children. Killing animals and babies and blaming it on mental illness is a cop out. Having a six month old who has never seen the sunlight? A three year old who doesn’t know how to be held? That’s not mental illness, that’s a monster.

    • Wabbitt
      September 14, 2014 at 10:55 pm

      There’s being mentally ill and being a fucking monster. This woman is the latter. Every single time something horrific like this happens, the first thing their lawyer does is start laying the ground work in the court of public opinion for an insanity plea. It’s all a load of bullshit intended to keep the sick freak from frying/spending the rest of eternity in a six by nine. Actual mentally ill people don’t usually commit crimes like this.

      If your house had 30 dumpsters worth of garbage and multiple dead children in it, you bet your ass we’d want you to fry. And the reason nobody is blasting the police is because there’s this little thing called probable cause. They can’t just break down doors unless they either have a warrant, or they have a reason to believe a crime is being committed (hearing someone screaming for help, seeing drugs or weapons through a window, etc). Until now, there was no indication that there was anything going on in that house.

    • x
      September 14, 2014 at 11:57 pm

      Are you fucked in the head too?

      • oh
        September 15, 2014 at 12:04 pm

        Lol, do you consider mental illness fucked in the head?

  • Katelyn
    September 14, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    There are signs that she could be mentally ill. The hoarding of everything found in the house is a part of having a mental illness because its an abnormal behavior. Also the fact that she feels no remorse or anything about the deaths of her children is also another factor because a “normal” person would feel remorse. P.s. normal is quoted because everyone is different and normal is a generalized term because behavior isn’t strayed far from that of other people. So their is no actual normal.

    • stephanie
      September 14, 2014 at 8:03 pm

      Mentally ill or not…. there were 7 kids who suffered. She should have to suffer. The term mentally ill is used far too often for the disgusting people of the world.

  • stephanie
    September 14, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    I have a picture that a friend posted on a comment I made about this story on my fb…. her mother posted a picture of john deere socks to her page and said “these are for the baby” on aug 2nd…. that blows her story on keeping the younger 2 a secret. She is a liar, con artist, manipulator that was very good at what she did. My question… why the fuck did her mother not do anything about this? Was she in on this? Is that why She posted about appreciating your mother. She may be mentally ill but she is no dumb woman, That’s a fact. She obviously had to have some brains in delivering children in her own home, and “hiding” it from her boyfriend who “had no idea” which I find hard to believe. This woman dies not deserve the death penalty though. I have to disagree. What she does deserve is to sit in her own feces w maggots slowly eating away at her, She deserves to starve, in a hot dark room…. and eventually the fat nasty “betty crocker, mother of the year” will know just how those poor children felt all those years. A bit harsh? No, not even. Im a mother of 3 that deals with mental issues, but to hurt my kids or make them suffer? The thought never crossed my mind. All of them, not just 1 or 2… but all 3 are my greatest accomplishments and they are my driving force!

    • September 14, 2014 at 7:45 pm

      Stephanie you are a dumbass who does not know what she is talking about! The Murray’s are expecting another grandchild in the family. Not from Erika. You think you know but you do not so why don’t you STFU with all your assumptions and accusations. You have no idea what anyone in her family knew or didn’t know! ASSHOLE!

      • stephanie
        September 14, 2014 at 8:01 pm

        Wowwww. Well sweetheart… I am entitled to what I believe and I get my beliefs from the facts that have been put out there. If there was nothing to hide, why was her fb taken down briefly, and when it was put back up, certain things, post, comments had been removed. She is a sick woman, and if you feel the need to defend her or some of the family that had to have known SOMETHING, feel free, but dont sit there calling me a dumbass. Erika is the dumbass here who has angered many people w her asshole actions.

        • September 14, 2014 at 8:35 pm

          I will call you a dumbass because that is exactly what you are being when you make accusations based on assumptions that are completely false. I will not defend Erika’s actions but I will not sit here and watch you make accusations that have no basis in truth.

          • September 14, 2014 at 8:40 pm

            And you did not base your beliefs on any facts. You read random things from a Facebook page and then decided to you were so smart you figured it all out and then made false accusations based on your assumptions. Do you know you can be taken to court for that? It is called defamation of character. Why not leave the investigating to those who have a brain. Clearly, that is not you!

          • stephanie
            September 14, 2014 at 9:11 pm

            Lol. Ok! Im defaming a baby murderer? A liar? A child abuser? I think she did that on her own… as for the mother of this sick bitch.. why the day after the kids were taken did She post “can you keep the noise down, the baby is sleeping” erika responded with . LOLOL
            Is that an inside joke or a family thing because I know if my kids were taken away I would be 1 sad person and I wouldn’t be joking about that. Just saying

          • Jjo
            September 14, 2014 at 9:55 pm

            @cinnamonface, maybe people would take you seriously if every sentence you wrote wasn’t degrading towards others or full of swearing. If everyone agrees this mother is guilty and there is no excuse for this behavior, what are you fighting about?

          • September 14, 2014 at 10:56 pm

            Shall I type slowly so you can keep up? I am talking about defaming her mother’s character. You do not know what any of those comments were about. You have no right to decide what they mean and make false accusations about someone based on your worthless and incorrect assumptions. You have no idea about anything except the small pieces of information that have been reported by the DA, the police and investigators. Everything else is your own speculation. I make silly inside jokes with my family all the time and I guarantee you under most circumstances no one else would ever get what I am really talking about. Likewise, you have no idea what they were talking about. You can decide you know but truly you don’t and to make those kinds of accusations based on faulty assumptions is very wrong. It is that simple. You are a dispicable person.

          • September 14, 2014 at 11:03 pm

            It is very upsetting to me that anyone would decide that because of some random comments on a Facebook page that her mother had anything to do with this! That is a large accusation with no facts to back it up. Random comments made by someone with no explanation and Stephanie decides she knows what they mean and that her mother is involved? I just can’t believe someone would make those kinds of serious accusations with no real facts to back it up. I is very wrong!

      • floydterminator342
        September 14, 2014 at 10:28 pm

        bitch. shut your fat mouth. all your doing is pissing people off.

        • stephanie
          September 14, 2014 at 11:16 pm

          All I know is my mother and I are close, w inside jokes and all, but never got a second would I be able to hide children from her. She would wonder why I never let her in my house, or why I looked fatter (being pregnant) if the 2 of them worked together on crafts and what not, like it was posted on fb… then yeah, as close as they were, I find it really hard to believe she knew nothing. I have my opinion, you have yours. Yours is defending this family, mine is not. You’re angry at the wrong person here and u think you need to get over yourself

      • saylor
        September 15, 2014 at 12:02 pm

        Cinnamonface all your doing is embarrassing yourself and making yourself look like a fucking scumbag loser by sticking up for erika. Who cares about small little inaccurate details. Erika is a discusting inhuman piece of nshit. You are obviously friends or family to her.. At this point go sit in a hole somewhere and hide until this a blows over. You are just as good as the company you keep… So you should be the one to STFU!!! Your fighting against the world and you WILL lose. No one cares what u have to say.

  • mike
    September 14, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    How the fuck are you qualified to determine who is mentally Ill? Intelligence and being able to post on Facebook has nothing to do with sanity. Just the fact that she thought that she could continue hiding 2 children in her home is a sign of mental problems. This woman had no concept of reality.

    If she is not mentally ill why did she not go and remove the bodies of the infants before the cops came back. She had to know they were going to come back.

    I understand you people want to see somebody punished ( we all do) and she will be but to say this woman does not have a disorder just makes me shake my head and think how the fuck can any sane person actually think this woman is sane!

      September 14, 2014 at 7:04 pm

      “How the fuck are you qualified to determine who is mentally Ill?”


      • September 14, 2014 at 7:48 pm

        He is no more qualified than anyone commenting here is qualified to say she isn’t.

        • September 17, 2014 at 2:38 am

          @cinnamonface I could have maybe understood you defending the mom about her facebook comments and not jumping to conclusions about them but the fact that it was posted THE DAY AFTER the children were removed from the home, I mean come the fuck on. Are you going to try and say now that her mom didnt know the kids were removed right away? I call bullshit on that. The 2 older kids ended up with the paternal grandma because apparently Erika’s wonderful mother embezzled a bunch of money and couldn’t go there but there is no way dcfs would have known that right away so she was probably the first person to be called. The only thing your doing is ruining your own reputation. I hope you don’t have coworkers or a boss that might stumble on to your nutty ass verbally abusive rants defending a baby killer. Oh wait you put it ona public forum but according to you that would somehow be defamation of character right? I hope these people are worth it ASSHOLE!

    • Dlam
      September 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm

      While you’re onto something Mike, this woman seems like a textbook sociopath…

    • September 14, 2014 at 9:58 pm

      She was crafty enough to intimidate witnesses and hide the body of animals as well. Doesn’t mean she is mentally ill. Just lazy about burying dead bodies (look how she was living).

  • mike
    September 14, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    How the fuck are you qualified to determine who is mentally Ill? Intelligence and being able to post on Facebook has nothing to do with sanity. Just the fact that she thought that she could continue hiding 2 children in her home is a sign of mental problems. This woman had no concept of reality.

    If she is not mentally ill why did she not go and remove the bodies of the infants before the cops came back. She had to know they were going to come back.

    Just because you people want to see somebody punished but to say this woman does not have a disorder just makes me shake my head and think how the fuck can any sane person actually think this woman is sane!

  • Shayna
    September 14, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Thank god I’m not the only one who thinks it’s a crock of shit that she’s “mentally ill” she had better get what she deserves. Those poor poor babies! And seriously why haven’t they arrested him??!! So confused and distraught over this entire story and the fact it’s the next state over!!

  • Zoey
    September 14, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    this woman is not mentally incapacitated. You’re all wacko if you believe for an instant that she has a mental illness. You don’t see severe schizophrenics posting “wow, i see dragons today.” No, they don’t go on Facebook. Typical disorders, depression, eating disorders, bipolar..those people post on Facebook. but they are in fact, pretty normal besides the fact that they have a disease that they can’t control. They lead pretty normal lives thanks to medications and therapy. These same people off their meds? still wouldn’t be able to pull this act this lady put on.
    This woman put on a beautiful show for the Facebook world. BUT, don’t we all? it is unbelievably easy to tell people across the web that my life is perfect and my kids are perfect. How often did she post about having guests over? I haven’t seen one post. because that would sufficiently blow her cover. She might dress the kids up and take them out and still be pretty normal because you aren’t seeing the inside of a house. People are great at putting up fronts especially when everyone else has the mind set “we keep to ourselves.” In the 50-70s, everyone in the neighborhood knew each other, their kids, their entire lives and everyone functioned smoothly, kids stayed out of trouble. But now, we got crazy people up the ass and no one will say anything because “it’s not our business”. I call bullshit on the “insanity” plea.

    • September 14, 2014 at 3:27 pm

      The plea is not guilty. There is no insanity plea. Try rereading the thousands of articles out there that tell you so.

    • September 14, 2014 at 3:30 pm

      We certainly have a lot of armchair doctors in the house. Too bad the pay sucks!

      • Wabbitt
        September 14, 2014 at 10:59 pm


  • September 14, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    It amazes me that someone such as yourself took so much time to add lies to a story that certainly doesn’t need to be exaggerated! Diapers piled to the ceiling? What, two feet high wasn’t crazy enough for you? Didn’t sound disgusting enough for you? Six month old welfare baby? There are no birth certificates for the two youngest children dumb ass! How do you suppose she will get welfare for babies who, as far as the state knows (or anyone else for that matter), are nonexistent? Where did you get your information from? I have seen several people refer to this woman as being a welfare case yet I have not seen one article that states anything of the sort. So please enlighten us as to where you got this information. I, for one, would certainly like to read that article. If you can’t produce anything that you may have gleaned this information from then tell me why anyone should read your article, let alone give any weight to it. Did you create it just for the pure entertainment? I am so glad this is entertainment for you because many families are in a lot of pain right now due to this situation. You perusing the internet for details as if they aren’t so horrendous that literally no one can even grasp why or how any of this happened and yet you feel the need to make it even bigger by adding tidbits of your own that aren’t even grounded in the truth. You want to hang this woman high. You ought to be right behind her for taking any sort of pleasure in such an ordeal. You take no pleasure? Oh I think you took a lot of pleasure in writing this and enhancing it. She has a 13 year old child who is very capable of reading this article. Imagine the pain this child is in and then she reads your exaggerated account of the only life she has ever had. Good job! You should be so proud!

    • Wabbitt
      September 14, 2014 at 3:33 pm

      Thirteen year old who can read it? I’m more concerned that the thirteen year old had to LIVE this. The three year old and the six month old at least have a shot at being functional human beings. But the two older kids are probably fucked.

      • September 14, 2014 at 3:58 pm

        Oh I see. So since she lived through this, which no one can change, it’s no big deal if she now has to read all about what I am sure DCF and anyone else involved in her life is trying to shield her from. Do you not understand children at all? Children who are severely abused mentally, physically and sexually still love their parents in most cases. Do you really think all the spew about this situation is going to help this already so-called fucked (your words)13 year old? People never think they just react. They do not care what these children hear or see on tv or the internet about their life. They do not care that their words hurt those who have already been hurt far too much in by this horrendous situation. You people have no idea. This is just entertainment and armchair judgements based on assumptions from the minute amount of information you all have about this situation. There is no doubt this is one of the most horrifying, if not the most horrifying thing most of us have ever heard. Everyone expresses their horror at what these children have gone through and continue to go through and yet no one thinks twice about possibly adding to their pain with hurtful words about their family. It is hard for me to understand why anyone might want to do something like that. People do not think.

        • Finnish goalie
          September 14, 2014 at 4:08 pm

          cinnamon, is your background social services? that’s curiosity, not questioning your opinion.

          isn’t this stockholm syndrome type situation something that should be broken ASAP? granted, simple bad mouthing isn’t going to do any good, but the sooner the child realizes their parents don’t actually love them which is the case here, probably the better, especially in the case of someone that is 13?

          • September 14, 2014 at 7:34 pm

            No it is not fg.

          • September 14, 2014 at 8:30 pm

            Whatever realizations are going to come to light for these children, they should not be through hateful speech from people who do not have a clue about the entire situation or the professional ability to handle such a delicate process with these children. Reading these sorts of things at this time could be very damaging. They are old enough to Google. I would hate for them to see any of these comments.

        • somebody
          September 14, 2014 at 8:06 pm

          thanks for your insight and sounding like you are defending this monster. and as you so eloquently put it you arm chair doctor phil. you must be related to her or something, otherwise who else would put that much effort into responding to other peoples comments.

          • somebodyelse
            September 14, 2014 at 10:16 pm

            Sounds to me, Cinnamonface, like you respect her family, not her…because I can’t imagine for a second that someone would jump to her defense. I think you’ve gotten totally sucked into this blog. Whether she’s mentally ill or not, this is an awful situation. You cannot deny that. If that was my family member, I would be too ashamed to publicly tell people not to be upset because I would be horrifically upset. I absolutely don’t discount that she is mentally unstable. Without having her history and current medical status in front of me, she has exhibited many abnormal behaviors. Normal behavior is subjective, what is socially acceptable in any given culture. The conditions of the children in her house are not normal in any civilized culture I have knowledge about. Reason being that the conditions cause illness, injury and even death. I understand your concern about the children’s curiosity and finding hateful comments online, but that is a losing battle to try on a blog. If you are so concerned, go help the family cope instead of also being the armchair you speak of. You seem like a nice person, but unless you have a motive, it seems as though you’re just arguing from an opposite perspective, just to feel righteous.

        • Wabbitt
          September 14, 2014 at 11:07 pm

          If you really think that anyone is entertained by the thought of the living nightmare those children experienced – than you’re sicker than Mom of the Year over there.

          The mere thought of that hell mouth makes my stomach churn, and you’re pitching a bitch fit at anyone who dares say anything derogatory toward this woman. How dare you try to act all high and mighty when something like this went on? They’ve brought in THIRTY dumpsters to empty all the garbage out of that house. Though I’m sure you’ll say I’m exaggerating, even though I got that off of Channel 5. Then you’ll say Channel 5 is exaggerating because they probably won’t actually need all of the dumpsters.

          So, how about instead of trying to defend these abominations masquerading as parents, you take a page from Uncle Ruslan’s book denounce them like a rational human being?

    • September 14, 2014 at 10:01 pm

      This is turtle boy, we know things can be exaggerated here. If you are looking for a straightforward news article, go to the papers.

    • floydterminator342
      September 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm

      cinnabitch, dude, its people like you who ruin a simple conversation. stop with all the rude comments like ur queen fucking shit and u know everything. theres some shit u just dont need to say and from what iv read so far its pretty much everything you have managed to type. idiot.

    • donkay518
      September 17, 2014 at 2:51 am

      Another comment for you. First of all this isn’t an article it’s a blog. I’ll you the difference because you just cant grasp the concept. A blog is an OPINION. I also have a question for you. Are you doing this on all the other comment sections on the thousands of other websites covering this? And if so how long do you think you are going to last destroying all thw the people that have a negative opinion? It’s just laughable to me that you even bother going to these lengths witb how many people you have left to flip out on. You just loom like a fucling psycho. Actually you are a psycho because I’m an armchair doctor.

  • Cyn
    September 14, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    Fuck this mentally ill bullshit. People who are mentally ill that shoot up places, molest children, kill children, etc, etc… CAN BURN IN THE HOTTEST PART OF HELL. They should suffer as their victims then be put to death in the most inhumane way possible…

    • Zoey
      September 14, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      First of all, mentally ill people do absolutely nothing of the sort. People who are on drugs, shoot up places and kill other people. Severely demented individuals, rape and murder children. But can we leave the mentally ill alone? Not all of us function in the way the media seems to put it. Got it? People who are severely incapacitated by their mental illnesses are put in institutions to give them help because society can’t handle them. Usually mentally ill people keep to themselves because society is bullshit about them. Second, it’s not “mentally insane” its “insanity”. INSANITY, if you do your research, is not in-fact any word used by mental health professionals. It’s a LEGAL term. When someone claims insanity, they get to go to a mental health facility for the rest of their lives. it’s not like they get to roam free. They also DON’T GET PAROLE. Instead, they take away help from people who actually should be in there. So woopie, they are stuck in a place with severely incapacitated people for the rest of their lives where every single second of their lives in monitored and scheduled. Prison is probably better.

  • Nicole
    September 14, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    some people can’t understand eating disorders, depression, PTSD, bi-polar disorder, OCD, etc. they can’t imagine having them, or acting upon them, or WHY people act upon them. it doesn’t mean that thre people with these illnesses DONT have some type of mental disorder. mental illness doesn’t always mean a learning disability. she can be well spoken and literate and still be mentally ill. I definitely believe this woman is mentally ill. do I believe it’s an excuse? no. do I believe she should be exempt from the consequences of her actions? no. I believe this country doesn’t take mental illness as seriously as we should. I believe this woman should have gotten help years ago. there’s no excuse for behavior like this. had she received help in the past this could have been prevented. unfortunately her children had to suffer, so why shouldn’t she be held responsible for her actions?

    • sam
      September 14, 2014 at 10:37 pm

      THANK YOU finally someone who is at least SOMEWHAT knowledgeable on mental illness. she is OBVIOUSLY mentally ill. this does not excuse her actions but she CLEARLY is suffering from some type of mental illness. for anyone saying somewhat stupid things like “she’s not mentally ill, she’s just a sicko!!” or REALLY stupid things like “she’s literate and she can present herself well so she isn’t mentaly ill” should DO SOME RESEARCH AND LEARN ABOUT THIS SHIT BEFORE JUST MAKING THINGS UP AND TYPING THEM….horrific story all the way around but PEOPLE don’t be so stupid.

  • Margee Pesikov
    September 14, 2014 at 11:17 am

    Even I’m not that bad!

    • Joey G
      September 14, 2014 at 11:31 am

      Margee please… don’t sell yourself short!

      • Margee Pesikov
        September 15, 2014 at 8:14 pm

        Oh I don’t like anything short.

  • Kristi
    September 14, 2014 at 10:08 am

    While I strongly believe there is a great need for mental health awareness in schools and courts, and in the public in general, sometimes (especially in an antisocial personality disorder) the individual is just too adept at keeping their ‘secrets’. In this case, a mentally insane plea should absolutely be unacceptable…no different than John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy. This woman is clearly a sociopath…the story is so disturbing.

  • Finnish goalie
    September 14, 2014 at 9:29 am

    So, should we expect a tweet from Adrian Peterson telling everyone to calm down and put it all in perspective?

  • September 14, 2014 at 9:26 am

    #1 That dad should be in jail STAT! I don’t care if he wants to pretend he doesn’t know about the 5 F’N other KIDS… he most definitely knew about the stench, lack of electricity and water and the fact that the other 2 only had popsicles for breakfast every day!

    #2 What if the 3 year old and 5 month old aren’t here, but some crackhead’s that she took. Seriously stop and think about that for a minute… if you do the math, I know we don’t know the ages of the 3 deceased children, but it would be almost impossible for her to have 5 other kids in the timespan they have lived in that house, provided the other 3 were babies. What if she was letting crackheads have babies at her house or something and if they died she said she disposed of them, and if they lived she said she’d keep them. Seriously that is such a freaking conspiracy theory I want to slap myself in the face, but let’s be honest…after the shit she’s pulled, it wouldn’t be past the realm of conceivability.

    #3 Those poor kids she talked about on her FB page too (the 10YO and 13YO)…she posted their pictures and everyone knows their names, I can’t imagine when they have to go back to school!

    • September 14, 2014 at 9:33 am

      #4 What about her mother who was supposedly responding and posting to her on FB and said she took the 2 oldest kids all the time. The woman across the street had to throw her clothes away after being in that house the amount of time it took the cops to get there. How did they not show up STINKING! How did she NEVER go to her daughters house. How did she not know her daughter was pregnant if they are hers… seriously WTF everyone involved!

  • lj
    September 14, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Its funny that that dad is not in jail he lived in the house but only thought he had two kids wtf if u no two kids left and u Here to kids crying wouldn’t u go check on that. And u lived in the basement that was neat and organized hmmm really don’t buy it these poor kids

  • Julie
    September 14, 2014 at 7:05 am

    IF she is mentally ill, that does not mean she can’t be held responsible for her behavior. I think that’s a huge misconception. Mental illness and being a law-abiding citizen or a good person are absolutely not mutually exclusive. Mental illness is a challenge – and a very real one for some – but it’s not a scapegoat…and it should be used as one. I can’t imagine how this one is going to play out. So so so many questions.

  • Sherinda
    September 14, 2014 at 6:10 am

    She’s what’s wrong with this countries negativity towards mental illness- who wants to admit they have a mental illness if it means they now share the same figurative space with this putrid sespool of a human being?! The first thing I noticed while on looking at her Facebook were those posts about the missing child, the drowning blackstone boy and that “some people shouldn’t be parents”- I hope so badly that that is able to come back and bite her ass in court, you can tell something’s not right for THAT child but just not your own?? The ones who are starving, filthy and rotting?? C’mon. I’m curious about the daughter too, could any of those babies have been hers? Mommy dearest clearly thinks the world of her 13 yo miracle so maybe she wouldn’t want to feel the shame of others knowing her teen had a baby- or 4. I too think it’s horrendous that the dad Ray isn’t in jail himself. I saw somewhere that he lived in the basement- apparently that makes you unaware to the horrow show going on above you in the main house- to your own children- duh, yea, makes sense. I mean, you know there probably wasn’t much shit and maggots falling down into the basement considering one child was shitting through his OWN MATTRESS IT WAS SO BAD. ugh. I just hope this woman gets what she truly deserves. However I agree, most people can’t believe (and refuse to believe) that someone who doesn’t have a truly debilitating mental illness could do this- could go about their day knowing they have children rotting in the closet and two more awaiting the same fate, dying painfully and slowly unloved and cover in feces. So, what will probably happen is this woman will get a cute private room up on the forensic unit of Worcester Recovery Center. She will have the comforts of television, a phone she can use whenever she wants, free roam of the unit, privacy in her own room when she wants that, a visiting schedule that has more hours on hours to visit than off, a courtyard in the back that she just has to ask to be escorted out into and enjoy the fresh air or play some basketball, a gym that is FULL of brand new exercise equipment that she can use, top notch medical visits in the clinic downstairs (better then you or I would get), the ability to wear whatever she wants to wear, 3 large meals a day complete with sundaes and desserts and access to daily therapy sessions when those of us out here who truly do suffer from mental illness like clinical depression and PTSD have to pay things like a $7000 UNPAYABLE “copay” before getting into a therapy session. It’s disgusting and she is disgusting. She doesn’t suffer from a mental illness. She suffers from selfishness and extreme laziness. I don’t believe much in hell or heaven but this makes me hope there truly is a place she will spend eternity feeling the exact way she made those little ones feel.

    • September 14, 2014 at 3:23 pm

      Thanks for the diagnosis Dr. Sheridan. Why dn’t you run out to where she is being held and let them no so they don’t waste taxpayers money on a psych evaluation! SMH. Ay yi yi…some people are idiots!

      • Nicole Ashley B
        September 14, 2014 at 9:50 pm

        As a graduated student from BMR, my heart goes out to both kids. I saw the oldest played the flute in the band, and I have my best grade school memories being part of that music program. As upsetting it is to read about this tragedy occurring so close to home, I believe there HAS to be more to this story. I do believe the boyfriend should absolutely be in custody and have to face all the same charges. I’m also confused about this not being investigated the first time the officers noticed poor living conditions in 2010. Blackstone is a fantastic community, I hope the kids stay in the area and the oldest sticks with music. Everyone I have talked to has shown nothing but immense concern for the well-being of these kids while all this commotion is happening. We all need to view this case as one that should never be allowed to happen again, ever.

      • September 14, 2014 at 10:06 pm

        When you are complaining about the intelligence of others you should check your spelling much more carefully.

  • SW
    September 14, 2014 at 4:31 am

    I am leaning towards. Substance abuse and to put it in simple terms mental illness However she appears to be competent to stand trial. The police didn’t report any calls of a wacked out women at the house so she doesn’t have severe enough mental illness for hospitalization. My question is how come never any Facebook posts about the b/f How could the landlord who is related with the extremely common last name Rivera not know what was going on in that house which no doubt was given to them. My guess is the house is from a relative who is deceased or in a nursing home and the family never sold it, instead gave it to them. Also DCF sucks… It is my opinion as someone who may or may not work in the mental health field that the State Police should do child neglect and abuse investigations. Let DCF deal with the custody and behavior stuff.

    • susan cowell
      September 15, 2014 at 5:36 pm

      Of course the scumbag boyfriend knew what was going on. Why they did not arrest him is the million dollar question. She is not crazy. More kids you have in this state, more rewards you get from the people that work for a living . can only imagine how hard my husband had to work so she could get her money each month for her living and dead children. She is scum , and hubby is too. They should be treated as such. Put them in jail, on a cot, full of feses and urine, popsicles for breakfast, don’t let them see the light of day, no showers, no human contact, no haircuts or nail clipping and no blankets for warmth, see how they handle it. They are adults they should do little better than innocent little children. These poor innocent kids and what they had to endure from their scumbag no good for nothing selfish parents. I just don’t get why no family members noticed anything?? If my kids were treated like garbage I think my family would know. Oh wait, maybe they are mentally challenged also?? Makes me sick!!!! I hope I never meet her in a dark alley. Sure she will be out soon, after all she did not know what she was doing. NOT. Sure the suckers were sucking off the system. Dispicable. No words to describe these pieces of trash.

      • oh
        September 15, 2014 at 7:26 pm

        Perhaps you might want to reread the facts here lady, the state only knew of 2 children’s existence so she wasn’t poppn out kids for payment. Good thing you married God and nothing bad will ever put you in need of assistance considering it sounds like you don’t work either!

        • sue
          September 16, 2014 at 7:24 am

          Never said nothing would ever happen to me and I may never need state assistance, I certainly would not be sucking the state. And I worked my entire life until recently-because I was sick of working for the low lives to be living in luxury while I busted my butt. I have been down on my luck believe me, but I would never kill my kids, starve my kids, neglect my kids or not let them see the light of day. How can any human being look at their child with maggots crawling all over them, oh wait she probably never went upstairs to look at her kids, my bad. Whether she had two kids or ten kids, sure she was getting aid of some kind. No excuses for this piece of garbage, so don’t even try. And for family members not to know what was going on, explain that???? Animals should not have children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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