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If You Hate Kevin Spacey All Of A Sudden You’re An Effing Moron And Here’s Why

Way to be lemmings and blindly follow the Mainstream Media off the proverbial Cliff of No Sack.

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Sit down, open this up, and for once try not to be offended. I’m going to tackle what no other writer has dared to since this story hit – pen an article that paints the bigger picture and doesn’t pussy foot around things due to a fear of offending folks. You might not agree with me on everything, if at all, but that doesn’t make me right and you wrong. It just means we are capable of discussion like civilized human. You know, the species who only got to where they are today by questioning everything.


Unless you’ve been living under a rock you’ve heard about this shit show with Kevin Spacey. 

In the strange occurrence that you have been rock-dwelling here the scoop:

Anthony Rapp, who is best-known for playing Mark Cohen in the Broadway and film adaptation of RENT, came out saying Spacey tried to come on to him when he was fourteen.

Because of this, Spacey was forced to out himself as gay, and now SJWs are blasting him for actually finding a bad time to announce he likes dudes. The fallout is nothing short of brutal.

The Emmy’s have completely revoked plans to give Spacey a special award next month and Netflix has canceled House of Cards, going as far as to completely hault production, even AFTER they said they would finish season six.  That’s a whole different hair across my ass entirely. 

If those skittish fuckers at Netflix don’t give me an ending to my favorite show because of this bullshit I’m going to snap like Michael Douglas in Falling Down. 

So, I’m sitting here reading articles like:

Mind you Rapp is now 46, this incident happened like thirty years ago, and he’s citing all of this newfound “awareness” of Hollywood creeps, after the demise of Harvey Weinstein, for his burst of courage.

Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break.

If people want to compare Spacey to Weinstein I have zero issue with telling them why they are toolbags. Let’s start by taking a look at the accuser’s interview with BuzzFeed. I’ve screenshot this to spare you the click. You’re welcome.


One person, meaning Rapp, has said shit about Spacey attacking them underage. ONE. Weinstein had YEARS of documented predatory behavior. Weinstein used his position of power to bang young starlets who weighed their careers being destroyed over watching the fat mess of a producer shower. When Rapp’s alleged assault happened Spacey was a NOBODY. There was zero power there.


Because of the hype people, namely media, are doing anything they can to try and burn Spacey alive and that is so beyond the realm of cool.

Let me just say, for the sake of full disclosure, I’m a big fan of both actors involved in this. Kevin Spacey shits ice cream in my eyes and I have a serious soft spot for Rapp since I’m a huge theatre nerd. I even once designed a Sims character after him back before I had kids and actually had the time to dick around with games.

But accusations without proof are just that – ACCUSATIONS. Am I saying it didn’t happen because of my fondess for Spacey? Nope.

I’m saying that just because someone says something doesn’t make it true. People have different recollections of things.

It could have been playful stupidity that Rapp harboured as an attack for years.

It could have been worse than what Rapp remembers.

It could be a figment of his imagination based off a scene from the play he was doing at the time. (More on that in a sec.)

FOR EXAMPLE: “Kevin Spacey tossed my she-salad when I was ten.”

Believe me or want proof?

If you are skeptical of what I said your brain is in the right place. If you want to string Spacey up because I typed a statement without backing it up – you need to chiggity check yourself before you wriggity wreck yourself.

Let’s continue.

If Rapp spent years and years watching as Spacey rose to fame, angered at his every move, that is something he should have addressed ages ago. In person or in therapy. Instead, he waited for the PR to be in his favor, compared Spacey to Weinstein, who actually used his power to exploit people. Weinstein had had years of payouts and non-disclosure agreements. The comparison fit the narrative even though the had nothing similar but names we are familiar with.

I had the misfortune to read the BuzzFeed article with Rapp’s side. It’s swimming with inflammatory anecdotes. It outlines how Rapp spent his entire duration of youth in to adulthood furious and telling random people in his life how he was attacked. BuzzFeed then quoted those people as the attack was fact. They hid it behind a graph of Rapp telling people of his attack at an Oscar Party. It was SO heavy with insinuation. Does telling your friends a story, be it true or not, make it valid?

Nope. Nope. Noooooope.


Dude, Spacey is not a fraud. A potential creep? Yes.  A fraud would be someone who kept their identical, more talented, twin brother locked in the basement, only bringing him out to act for him just to take the credit. Think Man In The Iron Mask with less D’Artagnan and more swag bags. That’s fraud.

Spacey made things worse for himself by making a statement on Twitter. Call me an asshole but I actually felt bad for the poor sod. He seemed genuinely confused and apologetic. Even though Spacey has been in show business for decades, is familiar of how fast a scandal can take someone down, the statement obviously didn’t come from a PR firm or even a lawyer. It seemed to me it came from a very confused and apologetic heart.

Turtleboss and I had a conversation about this today and we disagreed heavily on it. We’re really great colleagues/ friends who can have different opinions and still manage to listen to, and respect, one another’s stance. Remember that?

Pepperidge Turtle Farms sure does.

Turtleboss read the statement above as a cut and dry confession. He agreed that Spacey should be demolished. He said his entire personal timeline is nothing but people being shocked by Spacey being a homosexual and not the seriousness of the allegations.

My personal timeline, on the other hand, is my friends vilifying Spacey on the accusation alone. They blasted him for his timing and claimed he was hiding behind his coming out to deflect from being a pedophile. 

He’s got a more conservative posse and my peeps lean towards snowflakes.

I didn’t take the statement as a confession at all. I saw a man who didn’t want to deny the feelings of someone who sincerely felt hurt by his possible actions, even though he didn’t have any recollection of them himself. Not wanting to minimize Rapp’s account as a victim, he apologized, confirmed his sexual preference, and said he would try and make them right.

Call me naive if you will. I just feel like Spacey spoke from the heart instead of giving Rapp, and the rest of the world, a highly impersonal denial filled with carefully chosen words meant to down play the severity of Rapp’s accusations.

Of course people decided to rip the statement apart, saying that Spacey had no business using this as his method of coming out, and then crapping on him for recalling “he was drunk” but not that he attacked Rapp. 

Well duh. It was a party in the 80’s. If you weren’t coked out and shit-faced it wasn’t a party! Rapp said party. Party automatically points to drinks. Spacey, who claimed he has no memory of the actions he stood accused of, could only rationalize his drawing a blank with being hammered.

I can tell you this though, I’m glad that no one cares who I was (or am for that matter) when I got tanked a bunch of times and nailed the older brother of my best pal back in the day. Despite my pal having a crush on me since high school, me tossing him in the friend-zone without a chance, and getting sloppy with his asshole sibling, which would have broken his heart. Or those two times I hit on, and succeeded, in drunkenly macking dudes in relationships just because I was a dick head in my twenties and I just liked that I had that kind of power.

All of us have those stupid encounters we look back on and think “Wow, I was a real asshole and probably should have avoided that 867th beer.” It’s the whole point of getting older, wiser, and learning from the lessons our life presents us.

I’m sure there will be more people coming forward after I print this as there always is. However, so far only one other named person, who was 30 at the time, has jumped on the bandwagon alleging Spacey got turnt and grabbed his junk.  

Someone got drunk and handsy at a bar!? Thank God it’s only news if they’re famous and on the chopping block! We’d have to print daily anthologies dedicated to assholes that do this on the regs.

Dude, #metoo originated at a bar.

I wonder if any of those dudes from my past talk about me giving them PTSD because I fondled them or wove an evil web of IDGAF mid-twenties cuntiness and adultery? Probably not. I’m sure it’s still alive and well in their spank bank. My younger-self was good like that.

Now, even though I’m sitting here humanizing someone who we see just as a character on screen by giving my own tale of dumbassness, I will mention I never left my drunk-self alone with an under age boy. I never touched someone who didn’t give the consent. Regardless of that, the lesson above remains. Spacey is having his entire career tanked because of this and we have nothing to prove it but he said/he said.

We should try to not go crazy.  There are now rumors and media outlets searching for evidence Spacey flirted with young guys on the set of House of Cards? A huge movie star going for younger folks? Oh no! Leave it to BuzzFeed and Jezebel to beg people to come forward under an encrypted text. 

You know what the MSM is doing to confirm that Spacey was a creep? Citing a joke about how Stewie Griffin came running from Spacey’s basement on Family Guy AND quoting Rosie O’Donnell tweets.

Scream. Again.

Oh you knew did you, Rosie? You bulbous sow. Why didn’t you come forward then? You’re such an advocate for victims, huh? The omnipotent after-the-fact tweeter. Too busy blasting a kid you don’t know for having autism? Maybe you gave up chasing your own kid from running away from you because you’re such a beast? No, it’s much easier to try and stay relevant with hearsay than on your own talent and merit. GTFOH.

Rapp even mentioned himself that the broadway play he was doing at the time, Precious Sons, had a scene where the father (Ed Harris) mistakes Rapp, playing the character of his son, as someone else and climbs on top of him in a sexual way. Well shit.  How could he have gotten the idea or possibly misconstrue this “attack.”

Is nobody else putting this together? Why are people such sheep? Why are they forming lynch mobs and not asking logical questions?

Let’s also mention that Rapp didn’t tell his mother, who let her fourteen year-old go to a big NYC party by himself, because he would have been forced to confront his own sexuality, which he said didn’t want to do.

Do I think the 80’s we’re a different time as Rapp said? Yes. We were all fine playing outside by ourselves until they discovered Adam Walsh’s severed head in a ditch. That’s when our parents started leaving the door open, not napping while we were running amok, building backyard fences, and checking on us occasionally. But NYC in the 80’s, especially the spots where Rapp would have been going to and from, were some of the most crime-addled places in the world. By 1986, when this supposedly happened, people knew about how  debauches and dangerous adult night clubs and parties were. Especially those thrown for or by the rich and famous. To leave your fourteen year-old alone, unsupervised, with YOUR PERMISSION, is the definition of asking for trouble and neglect. Again, Spacey wasn’t some well-known movie star. Why on Earth was this kid being unsupervised acceptable time and time again? I’m sorry that the woman I’m blasting has passed away. I really am. We have this terrible habit of not holding those who aren’t with us anymore accountable for anything. Alive or dead – we can NOT ignore this important point of neglect being completely fucked up.

Guys, let me tell you. I am not a victim shamer. I am a girl who has been attacked and kept quiet about it because people wouldn’t believe me if I came out and said something. I’m simply stating that it’s our job as decent humans to not crucify people on the word of one person. To bomb their entire career on the recollection of something that happened decades ago with no proof. There is a reason why the statute of limitations is in place. There is a reason why the police told Rapp there was nothing to prosecute. There is a reason why people have the right to defend themselves in a court of law.

The process is in place for a reason.

Give me the PROOF Spacey is a creepasaur 3000 and I will light the damn torches for you. I will immediately burn my BluRay copy of American Beauty, type an “I suck and was wrong” apology blog, while simultaneously eating my foot that I dressed up as a crow.

I’m simply saying we have GOT to quit shitting on someone on hearsay alone just because it’s fits the hot topic this month. Seeing that I shit on dirtbags professionally – that’s saying a WHOLE hell of a lot.

48 Comment(s)
  • Rape is Legal for Spacey's and Clintons of the world, you'd expect this of isis.
    November 4, 2017 at 10:05 am

    Long vid worth the watch.

    Most powerful men in our country raping children, tip of the iceberg. If you or I make an off color joke we felt was reasonable at work and somebody in the next room hears it we could be out on the street with no way to pay the rent or support ourselves and families.

    At the other end of the spectrum the criminal population commits armed robbery of 2 banks, gets 7 months in prison then out and cuts the throats of 2 anesthesiologists for jewelry during a robbery in a Boston penthouse apartment.

    If you haven’t figured it out yet, laws are only for honest people, with a little research on your own and an attorney’s help. You can legally take advantage of most of the same things as the rich and powerfull or street criminals, gaining a massive advantage in life without the constraints of many laws. Until their is a true level playing field, there is no justice and freedom is a story. Google, Amazon, NFL, Fakebook, pay little or no taxes, do you have to pay taxes? Does the FAA pass special laws to favor your business? Does the State build a highway stadium or off-ramp to suite your business or personal desires? If you are trying to do the right thing you’re part of the fucked over majority. If you are a strait white male who is courteous to others with no criminal background, your are at the bottom of the barrel and only succeed through dogged persistence and belief in yourself.

  • chrissy
    November 2, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    this is my least favorite turtle article of all time.
    firstly, the content,
    but mostly, the overabundant throwback slang and slang in general it gets too much i have to turn away
    also chicks who act like dudes in order to fit in with and be liked by male audiences..
    can be offputting

    • BobnMic
      November 2, 2017 at 8:42 pm

      Hey chrissy great hearing from ya. I have to agree this blog is not one of the best. Please keep up the great comments.

      • chrissy
        November 2, 2017 at 9:32 pm

        half of my comments are not from me,
        just like half of yours are not from you…

        if this is you…..

        but my husband blocked bestgore . com and liveleaks too saying only sick people go there..
        so here i linger even though i still cannot decipher who my cute troll is haha
        we are in the middle of a house move so it keeps me company

        ps thanks for saying hi even if this is turd etc

        • BobnMic
          November 2, 2017 at 9:45 pm

          Nope Chrissy. That’s troll BobnMic. I try and stay on topic and not bother anyone. Very rarely disagree with SSTG. This one I do and that is all I’m sayin.’ No derogatory replies just disagree.

          • chrissy
            November 2, 2017 at 11:26 pm

            ah very good to see you and for clarification
            ty for letting me know

            sorry if i was derogatory to her she is very sassy and that is the style of the blog so she is exactly what is called for, i will stfu about it

            but Kevin Spacey appears to be a bastard, sadly

  • Wwy
    November 2, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    Jewish diddlers in Hollywood nothing new.

  • Red
    November 2, 2017 at 9:55 am

    I had the same thought when I heard about this: you can’t compare what Spacey is being accused of to what Weinstein is being accused of. The difference is Weinstein used his powerful position to sexually dominate and manipulate women, while Spacey sexually assaulted an underage boy. That’s something he could/would have done as a regular person, not a well-known actor- especially back then. I am by no means saying what Spacey did is okay, but Weinstein is a narcissistic and sadistic predator.

    • WELL???
      November 2, 2017 at 4:06 pm

      What do you have to say now that another man has come forward to say that he was involved in a sexual relationship with Kevin Spacey at age 14? And Spacey has announced that he is seeking “treatment” of some kind?

      • More bad press for KS
        November 3, 2017 at 5:56 pm

        Another day and MANY more allegations against Spacey………looks like SSTG was WAY off base on this one.

  • Bogglesnort
    November 2, 2017 at 7:24 am

    How about a story about the South shore Grundlesnopolis that supports and protects Pedophile rapists? Oh wait that’s SSTG!

    • SSTG is a fucking hypocrite!
      November 2, 2017 at 10:29 am

      If SSTG’s kids were targets of pedophilia, she’d be DEMANDING the perv have his fucking dick and balls cut off!!! SSTG You’re a Fucking Hypocrite!

  • BobnMic
    November 2, 2017 at 4:55 am

    I don’t even know where to go with this so I won’t. Comment submitted.

    • Paul Larson
      November 2, 2017 at 10:21 am

      Really? Felt the need to type that and hit post, did ya? Just pressed keys? Nothing to say as usual? Just needed to get you’re face out there? Good for you. You were heard. Proud?

      • BobnMic
        November 2, 2017 at 2:53 pm

        Hey Paul Larson you idiot. What I am saying is that I disagree. Do I really need to spell it out for you? Apparently I do.

        • Paul Larson
          November 2, 2017 at 3:50 pm

          Yup. Got it. No need to spread your opinion any further… I can smell it from here. You really should consult a proctologist… it doesn’t smell natural… you know… like… decomposition started early or something.

  • K
    November 2, 2017 at 2:13 am

    Ive been mouthing off for two days on this topic! I can’t believe someone agrees with me!!! There are some Sheeple out there! Scary shit!!!! Great article!!!!

  • gfldgadfly
    November 1, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    Amazing post, cuts like a knife through a pile of Enquirers. Waiting for more info on this one…. meanwhile, thank you.

  • Your Fired
    November 1, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    Turtleboy needs to fire this Pedo supporter. Her blogs suck anyways.

    • SSTG = the fucking best
      November 1, 2017 at 9:40 pm


  • skdjskd
    November 1, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Who the F cares. Im kind of with sstg on this one. Spacey picked him up, hugged him tightly and collapsed on top of him. Highly inappropriate, however this kid had a hard on for men and was obviously sexually excited. Never heard of this rapp fag so he’s looking for a money grab. If a straight 14 year old boy had a woman 12 years older than him come on to him and hug him tight and collapse on top of him that kid is gonna be sporting major wood. I know I would have. Not trying to defend spacey here but this is bullshit.

    • itsjustme
      November 1, 2017 at 11:26 pm

      I wouldn’t use some of the words you used but I have to agree with you. Pedophiles don’t stop, they don’t do one half-assed attempt to molest someone and then never try again. These people can’t be reformed after years in prison, if this were true people would be coming out every day with stories.
      Even according to him all he did was pick him up and twirl him around and fall down with him. I’m not saying he is lying but I think he might be confused about the intentions behinds what happened.

    • Homosexual Privilege
      November 2, 2017 at 6:09 am

      If it were heterosexual harassment, assault or rape with a male perpetrator the public would be readying the gallows.

      When it’s a homosexual harassment, assault or rape…. well the 14 year old was asking for it… etc etc. Agreed the kid should have never been at an adult hollywood perv party to begin with, not the kids fault and adults including Spacey should have looked out for this vulnerable boy. 14 year olds have many bad ideas, everything is exciting, let’s jump of this bridge into the river… what could go wrong? Again not the kids fault if he were into sports he would have jumped at the chance to hang out in a pro sports locker room doesn’t make it sexual, just wants to be around their idols.

      Homosexuals privilege is out of control, let the world know, you as a man, prefer other men’s harry asses and colons or hairless teen testicles and in 6 months all is forgotten and receiving your next phony award.

      Check your homosexual privilege uncle-fuckers.

  • Coug02
    November 1, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    Your take on this is flat out moronic. We’re all dumber for having read this.

  • MiraMax Rapist and Sons
    November 1, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    Queer is as queer does, Kevin Spacey sucks ass, literally, Hollywood is filled deviants. Porn is honest and decent compared to Hollywood studios. Bill Cosby wants to suck your pudding pop.

  • The Rant Queen
    November 1, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    Idk Spacey has always given me the heebie jeebies. I never knew why, obv, but he just made me uncomfortable, no matter what character he was or what movie he was in. My instincts are never wrong. They’ve never failed me and they never will.

    Not saying Spacey IS or ISNT guilty, but he (supposedly) invited a child to an adult party, knowing he wouldn’t know anyone and all the adults would be drinking and/or snorting. Was he “drunk” when he invited him too? Or maybe he doesn’t remember inviting him?

    In any case, I will never accept any excuses for an adult who sexually abuses/harasses/assaults a child. Idgaf if they’re gay, Idgaf if they were drunk. It’s not a mental illness, either, so it’d be cool if the idiots defending pedophiles would shut the fuck up with their mental illness bullshit. Its a sickness alright, and mental illness could very well exist in a pedo, but the pedophilia itself is not a mental illness. Its just plain evil. Period.

    On the other hand, while my instincts are never wrong, theres no way to know the reason my instincts act up when I see him. It could be for an entirely different reason. Idk. Instincts don’t usually come with codes, its either bad feeling, meh feeling, or good feeling. Its totally possible this theatre guy is making it up. I dont know who he is, Ive never been into theatre, but my instincts also tell me this guy is annoying so lol Anyway, Im just annoyed that Spacey decided to come out and make it all about him. It just seemed forced and insincere and deflective imo. But you have a point about the apologizing seeming to come from his own mind, which was a total mistake tbh.

    Maybe its because I dont typically like people in general, unless they have earned my affections/respect and dont give me the heebie jeebies. Its rare but miraculously there are a few celebs I do like. And a couple non celebs I like. These 2 actors are not one them, but if I did I wouldn’t side with either so quickly just because I like their show or want their dick. So I feel ya.

    I honestly dont know why I bother commenting here. I feel like the bloggers dont read the comments here, just fB and Twitter lol

    • chrissy
      November 2, 2017 at 4:47 am

      “I honestly dont know why I bother commenting here. I feel like the bloggers dont read the comments here, just fB and Twitter lol”

      agreed. i think SSTG mans the fb primarily and turtleboy is on twitter mostly but not sure really I’m pretty new just guessing

      • chrissy
        November 2, 2017 at 4:49 am

        lol that pic is what shows up when you type “a @ gmail” for the email
        think i’ll run through the alphabet just to see what pops up

  • Mike
    November 1, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    His motivation feels personal to me. What 14 year old is offended by being hit on by somebody older? Maybe it’s creepy, but it’s a boost to your self-esteem to be desired. It’s rarely the child that is offended by the age disparity, it’s others around them who flip out. I would have been flattered if one of my Mom’s friends hit on me when I was a teenager. It wouldn’t be until I was older that it would dawn on me that it’s creepy, but at the time, it would seem cool. I had a buddy that was sleeping with a 36-year-old woman when he was 14. At the time I thought he was the man.

    • Mitch the Botched Abortion
      November 2, 2017 at 4:40 am

      NAMBLA much?

    • Mike molests children
      November 3, 2017 at 9:25 am

      First of all , you’re fucking retarded. Secondly, you’d care if you were a 14 year old boy and you were hit on by a man, as opposed to a woman….. ya fucking retard

      • Schmoe
        Mitch the Botched Abortion
        November 3, 2017 at 4:33 pm

        yeah it was scary bizarre comment

    November 1, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    NAMBLA is proud to stand with South Shore Turtle Girl.

  • Literally Hitler
    November 1, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    So let me get this straight. The chick who was totally cool with destroying the livelihood of a white nationalist, is against destroying the livelihood of a millionaire being accused of being a pedophile, while simultaneously painting herself as a whore, but it’s cool because it was a phase in her 20’s?


    I would say more often than not I enjoy SSTG’s blogs, however, this one was just drivel.

  • Joe Lupinski
    November 1, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    I sincerely hope, and anticipate, that Kevin Spacey will eat a shotgun blast. Rape of any kind is the most violent of offenses and the victim suffers for life. All rapists, once convicted should be given seven days to get their legal matters in order then shot by a volunteer citizen firing squad in public and broadcast on TV, radio and the internet. Maybe that will make others think first.

    By pulling your SJW “free my boi” card because you have the hots for a queer you have lost all credibility SSTG.

  • Ann Flaherty
    November 1, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    Get over it. Spacey is a perv.

    • True Reality Speaks
      Mirror Mirror
      November 1, 2017 at 7:36 pm

      Yeah, Spacey’s a pedo fag and SSTG is a horrible blogger.

  • Phong
    November 1, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    I think we should all go to Nevada and jump up and down until that cesspool snaps off and sinks.

    What amazes me is with cameras in phones for 15 years, why are there no videos from the victims? Or is extortion treated like a cable bill out there?

    • Mitch the Botched Abortion
      November 1, 2017 at 7:02 pm

      you mean Cali?

      • Phong
        November 1, 2017 at 7:04 pm

        Yeah, stand on the western edge and jump.

        • InsertScreenNameHere
          November 1, 2017 at 8:29 pm

          Um, this happened in NYC. You know, Broadway?

        • Mitch the Botched Abortion
          November 2, 2017 at 4:37 am

          well, you said NEVADA, dumbass

  • Milo Yiannopoulos
    November 1, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    TurtleBoy has been unwavering in their support of child rape. Thank you.

    • Mitch the Botched Abortion
      November 1, 2017 at 6:58 pm

      fuck off

  • jamesso33
    November 1, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    You left out one important detail which would be another nail in Spacey’s coffin. He was a frequent flyer on the “lolita express”. The flight that takes you to Jeffrey Epstein’s private devil worship/pedo island.

    • chrissy
      November 1, 2017 at 6:27 pm

      yeah i noticed that the other night reading about this, knew he was an asshole then…

    • Gary Studds
      November 1, 2017 at 8:57 pm

      President Clinton was a regular visitor to pedophile island, he didn’t inhale he only raped teenage girls, no criminal complaints due to high dollar out of court settlements between Epsteinn and the victims on behalf of himself and many others. Funny how it all goes away quietly when it’s leftists doing the raping.

      Epstein, Weinstein, Woody Allan, Anthony Weiner……

    • Berkshire TurtleRider
      November 2, 2017 at 5:48 am

      With his BFF Bill Clinton.

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