Dallas cop Amber Guyger has been found guilty of murder in the shooting death of Botham Jean inside his own apartment. Ya knew this one was coming because pretty much nobody has this chick’s back. And there was no way a jury with 2 white people on it was going to let a white cop off the hook for killing a black guy in his own apartment. A guilty verdict would prevent the inevitable rioting.
I’m sure other turtle riders have been following this story like I have. It’s a tough one. Botham Jean was a completely innocent man in his home who did absolutely nothing wrong and was killed for it. Amber Guyger was a police officer who parked on the wrong floor of the garage, opened the unlocked door which she thought was her apartment, thought she was being robbed because she wouldn’t leave her door unlocked, saw a shadowy figure, and began shooting. I just can’t see how this is murder, but that’s just me. Seems like to murder someone you have to have a motive, and I failed to see a motive during this trial. She fucked up, she was completely in the wrong, and she should pay the price for taking a life. But to me murder is for people who are angry, or motivated by money, and specifically try to kill someone. Is it murder if a distracted driver kills someone?
On the other hand, if I was just chillin in my house and then some broad came in and started telling me not to move, I’d be like, get the fuck out of my house bitch. Da fuq was the guy supposed to do?
Anyway, I figured I’d leave this one open for discussion and put up a little poll question.
P.S. “This is for Michael Brown” is a big reason why I think she was found guilty.
Family attorney Ben Crump reacts to the Amber Guyger guilty verdict in Dallas https://t.co/DmW93ZyrkJ pic.twitter.com/PonPl88eyk
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48 Comment(s)
no….not guilty.
if blacks can play the game of “not guilty” due to race…why not?
so she murdered a black. Black lives matter right?
but wait-they don’t. Not to other blacks.
Blacks are not dying at the hands of cops at any higher rate than whites are.
Nor are blacks dying at the hands of white racists-not to any degree that is even noticeable.
Who is murdering blacks more than anyone in this country? other blacks…
You know what is more harmful to blacks and their “culture” than either renegade cops or hitler wannabes? More black women are the victims of domestic violence than any other race of women in the U.S.. Black children are growing up watching their mothers being beaten, abused and degraded and we think racism is what keeps the ghettos thriving?
Racism is the least of the problems facing the black community.
Incredibly sad, and not at all reported as it doesn’t fit the ‘agenda.’
Black on black crime and murder comprise the highest percentage, by far, of crimes committed against backs.
How can that be and why aren’t we aren’t we addressing it? Trump is attempting to do that.
Look a bit deeper….who is attempting to keep blacks addicted to and sucking off the government teat (thereby gaining their vote)? Who is trying to convince blacks that Republicans have always, and continue, to put them down, return them to slavery, take away their rights, etc.
Repub’s ended slavery. Repub’s are trying to restore dignity to black Americans. It is our duty to get the word out about the intentions of the two major parties. Please, please help.
Who is opening doors and making opportunities to help blacks support themselves and their families, and in the process, increasing their self-respect?
Black , foreign and employed means you can get your home invaded and be murdered in the process and it all some kind of accident. If I work 24 hrs in a row and walk into my neighbors house and shoot them its somehow ok. And if I break into a house with a some else and the home owner shoots them I’m a murderer. Makes sense?
How about some education? Homicide is the killing of a human being by another human being. The law defines the three types of homicide – murder, which requires intent; manslaughter, which requires recklessness; and negligent homicide, which requires… wait for it… negligence. All of these things are homicide. Only one of these things is murder.
She testified that when she shot she intended to kill him. I still think this is manslaughter at best, but given the climate and the racial make up of the jury it’s murder. She may have shot herself (see what I did there?) when she said she intended to kill him, but juries are generally pretty dumb and really there was no way she wouldn’t be convicted of murder if the prosecution did its job.
“when she shot she intended to kill him”
There’s your intent — this makes it premeditated.
Melissa,
“How about some education? The law … wait for it… negligence. All of these things are homicide. Only one of these things is murder. .. I still think this is manslaughter at best, but given the climate and the racial make up of the jury it’s murder”
You’re an idiot. What the fuck does “given the climate and the racial make up of the jury” even mean? Why don’t *you* follow your own advice and get some “education” before cutting and pasting out of Wikipedia and then trying to put a “racial climate” spin on it. Facts don’t care about your feelings.
Get Fucked,
Finn
Melissa,
Your essay on homicide was incomplete.
The act of homicide is the taking of another’s life, correct.
The 4th classification of homicide is “justifiable” and is not a crime.
___________________________________________________
Doc with a soft cock,
You have no clue what premeditation means in the legal sense.
It requires prior intent, well before the act is committed.
The period of time between the decision to act and carrying out the action would be considered long enough that a reasonable person would have the opportunity to change their mind and not follow through versus a kneejerk reaction or while in a fit of rage (crime of passion).
It can be the span of only a few minutes but the difference is significant in the eyes of the law.
Ok – of course she should have been found guilty of murder 1st degree – she enters a persons home uninvited and shoots him dead – murder!
She walked into another person’s house and shot him. That’s murder. It would have been a different story if he was in her house. In fact, he should have shot her for entering his house.
I don’t buy the story about accidentally entering the wrong house. If you’re that stupid, then you shouldn’t be allowed to have a gun and you should never have been hired to be a cop.
Don’t let the peanut scratch your head on the way out.
If she shot a Jew they should let her go anyone else is murder obviously.
You may ask yourself, “When did I get a colored manservant?”
You may decide for yourself, “I must bust a cap in this marauding Mandingo.”
You may say to yourself, “This is not my beautiful house.”
Then you may tell yourself, “My God, what have I done?”
I opted for manslaughter in the poll.
Fun Fact: You can’t have Manslaughter without Laughter.
I’m not anti cop I’m anti women I don’t think that women are emotionally stable enough to be in any position of leadership
The moral of the story is women should do jobs they are suited for and cop isn’t one of them. Waitress, maid, stewardess, work at the mall, prostitute. Fuck you Aaron A Sargent for getting women the right to vote, which was the beginning of the end. Fuckhole was from Massachusetts. Figures.
It’s the definition of second degree murder not manslaughter. She admitted her intention was to kill him. She shot him twice. I stand by police. I hate anti cop ass holes. I also hate that this woman gives cops a bad name. Police are trained better than to shoot an unarmed man, sitting on a couch, watching TV and eating ice cream in his own apartment. How stupid do you have to be? He wasn’t standing in the kitchen with a knife naked. Deadly force wasn’t necessary here.
First degree as she intended to kill him when she fired, that makes it premeditated.
Also, she failed to follow police protocol (i.e. back up and call for backup) and the flip side of being treated differently because she’s a cop is being expected to act like one.
if I saw a black guy when I walked into what I ‘thought’ was my place, I’d probably shoot also, 3 years maximum
I am not anti-cop like the skid marks on the underwear of life, the damn “auditors”, but c’mon – this cop couldn’t have reached for the night stick or her mace or used her hands?
She drew her gun, but couldn’t yell “freeze” or anything like that?
Maybe I’m missing your point, but yeah, sounds like murder to me.
How about these useless sh_t-stains:
Whether she was charged with Murder or Manslaughter it will not bring that innocent man back. This is why you have to keep your doors locked all the time. Your life could depend on it.
She was an idiot, she panicked and opened fire in low light conditions, cops carry small flashlights that are so bright they can momentarily blind/distract a person; I had one on my M4 in Iraq so they’ve been around a long time. You don’t walk around finger on the trigger until you’re ready to shoot, so you don’t panic and do stupid shit (or trip and do stupid shit). Maybe the Marines do a better job of teaching weapons handling than the police academy, but at the end of the day she f**ked up and a man died. Murder? HELL NO. Manslaughter? Yes, absolutely – voluntary manslaughter.
You exercise common sense…a rarity these days.
No, her admitted intent to kill makes this premeditated, and hence murder.
Was she high/drunk?
Didn’t she realize that the apartment looked NOTHING like hers?
Did she go into the wrong apartment with her gun drawn?
Shit sandwich
Talking to yourself again I see
Probably wood. Wrapped though.
By the time she gets out she’ll be able to lift dressers with her tongue…so, she has that going for her.
And that female cop on the left of the picture with her is going to be her trainer!
Comment of the day or week?!
Excellent.
Beinimin Crump. The natural evolution of Al Sharpton. Question for you Crump? When black people die are you attracted by the smell (like a vulture) the cameras or the money?
Who hasn’t parked on the wrong level of a garage you’ve been in a hundred times, walked through a door you never walk through, then through the hallway to an apartment that isn’t yours and straight up shot the motha fucka that lives there because silly you thought it was your place.
She had to have been drunk or high as a kite
It would be my dream. Some dinge getting high on my couch. I can see the feathers wafting through the air from the bullets penetrating the couch through the body now! Glocks gotta eat.
In fairness, fatigue is similar to being drunk.
Fuck all cops
Fuck all white people
Fuck all women
Fuck all apartment renters
Fuck all Americans
Get a life dickwad and your own handle. You’re not funny or amusing. Whatever you’re trying to do, it isn’t working.
Awww poor baby. Does seeing words on a screen upset you? Stop being a faggot and grow a pair of balls you pussy
He’s an angry troll. 🙂
He’s completely delusional and thinks I’m Z, DS, Y, etc.
Finn
She gut off his dreadlocks oh wsit that one has been debunked.
White officers kill blacks that one debunked to.
Jessie smollet debunked.
Oh well murder because she is white.
Murder should always include malice aforethought.
Per Wikipedia (shitty source, I know): Malice aforethought is the “premeditation” or “predetermination” required as an element of some crimes in some jurisdictions and a unique element for first-degree or aggravated murder in a few.
Without malice aforethought, it should be homicide or manslaughter.
– Dick N Vulva
It’s Pants up, don’t loot.
You conveniently leave out the fact that this apartment had a red rug in front of the door, which hers didn’t. So she was completely guilty of gross incompetence and reckless actions, all while wearing her police uniform. 20 years should be fine for her…
20 years should be good for her? Fucking serious? The guy she shot and killed lost what, 30, 40, 50 years?
Life. She took one, she oughta get one.
Come on! She doesn’t know who her own apartment? Only time, I have heard of that happening. The person was on drugs or intoxicated.
Or, after a 14 hour shift.
16 hours. 8 hour shift… 8 hour detail.
Happens every day.
Good argument for flagmen