11 Wine Drinking Black Women From Reading Club Kicked Off California Booze Cruise For Being Too Loud

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As you know, Worcester’s most notorious hippie criminal RBG just got back from a paid vacation to Oakland for his poetry slam hobby. And since he runs the Communities United Collective Facebook page, the posts there have slowed down recently. But now that he’s back from his vacation and continue his daily tradition of sitting on the computer all day and reposting one sided, anti-police, race-baiting, divisive stories, the page has picked up again on CUC’s FB page. Here’s one about “white privilege” that he was fired up about today:

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Here’s the account from the San Francisco Gate about what happened on that train:

What started as a joyous ride through wine county Saturday afternoon turned into a “humiliating” experience for 11 African American women, who said they were booted off the Napa Valley Wine Train for laughing and talking too loud.

Accounts and pictures of the episode have been spreading across social media, spawning the hashtag #LaughingWhileBlack while the women involved have questioned whether they would have been treated differently if they were not African American.

“It was humiliating. I’m really offended to be quite honest,” said 47-year-old Lisa Johnson, who was among Saturday’s group. “I felt like it was a racist attack on us. I feel like we were being singled out.”

The women have since been given a full refund by the train company, but continue to seek a public apology.

In a statement Sunday, Napa Valley Wine Train spokeswoman Kira Devitt said the company “received complaints from several parties in the same car and after three attempts from staff, requesting that the group keep the noise to an acceptable level, they were removed from the train and offered transportation back to the station in Napa.”

The incident began when Johnson and her book club, the Sisters on the Reading Edge, embarked around 11 a.m. for their annual trip through wine country — an adventure they had been planning since November.

Johnson, a self-described social media fanatic, posted pictures on Facebook, documenting the entire episode as it unfolded.

The women — all wearing matching T-shirts — were all seated in the same car in adjacent tables and seats, laughing and having a good time. They and the other passengers on the sold-out train were ordering tastings and glasses of wine as they rode the 18-mile stretch from Napa to St. Helena through California’s most famous and picturesque vineyards and wineries.

And while the group — which included an 83-year-old grandmother — may at times have been “rambunctious,” they were not “obnoxious or intoxicated,” Johnson said.

Several passengers, she said, even came up to them to take pictures, and asked about the romance novel they were reading for their club. But a short while into their trip, Johnson said a manager on the train asked them to pipe it down.

“The train is set up to be with your friends, to drink wine and have a good time,” Johnson said. “We were thinking, ‘Who are we offending?’”

Later on, Johnson said the manager told them that “this isn’t going to work,” and that if they didn’t “tone it down,” they were going to be asked to get off the train.

“It was a bizarre thing for all of us,” she said, adding that many in the group quieted down and wondered what had happened.

According to Johnson, one of the women in the same car told the group “this isn’t a bar.” “And we though, um, yes it is,” Johnson said.

What came next, she said, was the worst part of the afternoon. When the train pulled into the St. Helena station, the group had to do the “walk of shame” as they were escorted past passengers on the six other cars, Johnson said. At the station, the group was met by officers from the Napa Valley Railroad and St. Helena police departments.

“People were looking at us,” Johnson said. “To get escorted into the hands of waiting police officers. That’s the humiliating part.”

But Chief Jeff Hullquist of the Napa Valley Railroad Police Department said there “was no police action taken” at the station.

“When someone is removed from a train, they have to be dropped off at a station, and our policy is if someone is let off the train we’ll stand by,” he said. “We keep them safe until someone can get them.”

“The Napa Valley Wine Train does not enjoy removing guests from our trains, but takes these things very seriously in order to ensure the enjoyment and safety of all of our guests,” Devitt said, adding that about once a month guests need to be removed from the train.

Johnson said despite their treatment on the ride, the company has worked with them. They were given a refund, provided with free pictures, and a van was sent to pick them up.

“The people in the station were absolutely wonderful,” she said, ready to let the incident go.

But that’s when someone from the company posted an account of the incident on Facebook. Johnson was miffed.

“Following verbal and physical abuse toward other guests and staff, it was necessary to get our police involved,” the since-deleted post reads in part, which Johnson captured in a screen grab and re-posted to Facebook. “Many groups come on board and celebrate. When those celebrations impact our other guests, we do intervene.”

The post was quickly taken down and the company reached out to the women to make amends, she said. Devitt said the company is “conducting an internal audit to make sure all of our policies were followed and options were offered.”

“They knew they were out of place,” Johnson said, but added that she “wants a public apology for the humiliations they caused to us as professional women.”

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Turtleboy’s take on this is simple. First of all, the people who are running this train need to calm down. Like the women said, it’s a fucking wine train. People are gonna get wasted on it and they’re gonna get a little loud. So long as they’re not puking in the aisles and taking dumps in the corner, I say no harm no foul. It’s borderline cruel and unusual punishment to serve people booze, get them all liquored up and then tell them to keep the volume to a minimum.

Look, I don’t care what color you are, but when you put 11 women from a book club on a train together and toss some day drinking into the mix, shit’s gonna get real theatrical.

Here’s my question – did the managers on the train take action because people complained or were they doing it because they take their jobs too seriously? In all fairness, Turtleboy was not there that day so we can’t really comment as to what exactly went down. According to the train’s Facebook page it was because of a customer though:

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I don’t understand how anyone can’t side with the Sisters on the Reading Edge on this one. If I had to pick who I would rather spend a long train ride in California with – this cranky old hag or the Sisters on the Reading Edge, I’m taking the sisters ten times out of ten. These ladies don’t just read, they read on the edge. Which apparently means getting happy drunk on wine. I mean, tell me you wouldn’t wanna spend an afternoon getting sloppy with these gals:

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Where do I sign up? Because that is EXACTLY the type of crowd Turtleboy caters to. Middle aged women getting happy drunk on wine. That fits the profile of at least 40% of people reading this right now. Fun times. People like this have been telling Turtleboy to stop having fun his whole life:


Meanwhile people like this happy wine drunk old lady are a million times easier to please:


Do you realize how many hilarious anecdotes that woman has ready to go? Probably millions. Toss some merlot in her and watch what happens.

Look, I understand the manager thinks he or she was just doing their job, but even Turtleboy knows that you don’t fuck with 11 drunk, powerful, dignified, African-American women on a train. You’re just asking for it if you do that. Trust me, I’ve seen Diary of an Angry Black Woman more times than any white guy in history.

They lost me with the race stuff though. Obviously Turtleboy doesn’t like the racial aspect of this because generally we think it’s wrong to ASSUME that anyone’s intentions are racially motivated. Because calling someone racist is a very serious accusation. And if you don’t have proof that the people you’re talking about are REALLY racist, then it’s not fair to go tossing the race card around.

At the same time I’ve seen tons of shit posted about this that is actual, legitimate racism. For instance, if you’re thinking about writing “that’s because black women are louder in general,” as TONS of people already have on Facebook, then I’d reconsider before hitting enter. Because generally when you assign a certain type of behavior to an entire racial group, you’re pretty much setting the standard for racism.

These women should be catering to the party animals, not the RBG’s of the world. This wasn’t an example of “white privilege” this was an example of discrimination against fun people. Because I guarantee that if the Turtleboy Buffalo brigade were on this train we would’ve been kicked off two stops before them. And the only black guy we’ve got is J-Dubz and a couple Puerto Rican transplants from Webster.

But instead they’re making this all about being black, when it should be all about being drunk. Now this story is being controlled by media outlets that profit off of manufactured racism. The correct hashtag shouldn’t be #LaughingWhileBlack, it should be #LaughingWhileDrunk. This is an example of sober privilege, not white privilege. Then again, no one would probably pay attention to the story if race wasn’t made the central part of the story.

This is why I’m so pissed at the train manager. Because he just gave RBG and the rest of these knuckleheads more fuel for the fire.

The last thing I’ll say is this. The train is a privately run business. They have the right to kick anyone off if they feel that it’s affecting other customers. As a matter of fact, they don’t even really need a reason why. It’s their business and they can conduct it as they see fit. But at the same time, in the free market the Sisters on the Reading Edge have the right to raise bloody hell and fuck up their Yelp reviews. Don’t wanna lose business and have your reputation smeared? Don’t cater to uptight butthurt poopsmoochers and kick off 11 members of the Sisters on the Reading Edge. Boom. Problem solved.

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22 Comment(s)
  • Sweet Justice
    August 26, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Great points made TB. I don’t think it was racially motivated on the part of the company either. I think they were loud and some passengers who may or may not have been racist didn’t appreciate it. But who are they to complain? It was a WINE train. Sounds like the stiffs on the train were the only WHINERS.

  • A Guy
    August 25, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    Holy shit that little old lady is fucking adorable!

  • Davidsl
    August 25, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    I have to admit to Fill-In-The-Blank-While-Black fatigue. It’s exhausting keeping up with the myriad ways every man, woman and child ‘of color’ are being discriminated against, by EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE, EVERY INDUSTRY, ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME. No one gets carte-blanc to behave like they were raised in a barn just because of the color of their skin. These ladies may very well be otherwise refined and responsible. But not THIS time.

    • janie jones
      August 25, 2015 at 8:52 pm

      Absolutely. It’s utterly exhausting. Everyday it’s something new. There are so many examples that I’m not going into specifics but it’s every little thing. Everyday there is a protest. Everyday. It is the boy who cried wolf and I think people are getting sick of it. We have to walk on eggshells or they lose control. I am done. Done with the lie that is political correctness. Done with the “yeah, but” people. Done with “white guilt”. Done with all their bullshit period. I get up, go to work and try to live a morally decent life but according to blacks, I’m the problem. They’re so busy pointing the finger at everyone else that it’s impossible to look at yourself. no accountability. No responsibility. Just angry rhetoric and hurtful propaganda. I’m not a cold hearted cynic. I recognize the plight of the disenchanted but when you have more opportunities than I ever had, your plight becomes null and void
      They talk about “white privilege”. What privilege do I have? I can’t cry to the NAACP. Or the Cultural Mosaic Society. Or any other of the million groups out there that would laugh at me if I went to them. The truth is, I’d rather do it myself. I will not be subservient to the subliminal pressure of the leftist agenda that are embraced by the black community. I’m sorry to rant but I’m just so disgusted.

      • GIANNI
        October 1, 2015 at 2:06 pm

        DITTO. All the slave owners are dead. White people now are being blamed for things in the past. GTFO! Ask any black person if they personally know a slave owner or a slave. They need to get it trough their heads that slaves and slave owners are obsolete in America. Can’t change the past it has already passed. White people Now weren’t there.Black people now are just like the rest of us free.Like the rest of us need to be held accountable for their actions. You act like a fo9l you’ll be treated like one Race Card is old! They want to use it , then go did up the graves of the ones that enslaved you. White people Now owe you nothing.You Are Free We’re all free. Race Card? = Lazy

  • janie jones
    August 25, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    I have a question for black people. What do you want from white people? What is your endgame? Segregation? Would that make you happy? Should I sign over my house, give you my credit cards, my bank accounts and everything else I worked for? Should I pack up and emigrate back to Ireland? You talk about diversity and unity but clearly your the ones who can’t stand to be around anyone who doesn’t agree with you. People have had enough of your bullshit. We’ve tried and tried to work with you, going so far as to apologize for what our ancestors did. No More. I don’t care if this sounds racist. I’m not apologizing for being white anymore. Here’s some advice. Stop bitching, get off your ass and get a job and tone down your obnoxious, flamboyant behavior. Then we can start to talk.

    • TurtleBoySpurts
      August 26, 2015 at 10:36 am

      Maybe you should pose those questions to your black friends? Hahaha… Right.

  • janie jones
    August 25, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    When I was in Napa I took the same tour on the train that these women did. It is not a “booze cruise”. You are supposed to conduct yourself appropriately with class and sophistication. Think of it as a history class with incredible wine. The people who run the tour do not take any bullshit from anyone. Black, white, Asian, anyone. I witnessed a couple in their 40s who were excessively making out, asked to vacate. When a group of people, any type of people, are divulging in drink, it’s going to be loud. We all know that. But after being asked to calm down three times in a place that should be treated with a little more respect than your local dive bar, We as adults should expect something appropriate to be done. In this case it was the removal of 11 assholes from an environment that all of them should’ve respected and acted like adults. If it was me, I would’ve absolutely expected to be thrown off and possibly be arrested. Now if that’d happened, should I cry racism because I’m a middle class white Irish male? Of course not. It’s because I’m acting like a total prick. It seems as if you can’t say anything remotely negative toward a black person without them crying racism. How unbelievably sensitive and thin skinned. Blaming everyone else for your terrible behavior is really getting old. You are losing empathy from even the leftist of people. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. people are going to stop listening to your whining and crying. This is my opinion, I could be wrong. Thanks.

    • GIANNI
      October 1, 2015 at 1:44 pm

      Totally agree with you.Now they want millions are you kidding me? How about all the other people that were kicked off are they getting money? Probably not, because they know they were in the wrong and probably just laughed about it.. Like Dang Dude We Just Got Kicked Off.
      These women were drunk and abnoxiou. They were asked 3 times to please tone it down.Selfish Women .Like the other passengers said it’s not a bar.It’s supposed to be an enjoyable wine tasting tour for ALL passengers.The other passengers should sue these 11 women for ruining their time.They want a million each. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT (NOT) Get a better job! Race Card is getting old.
      When you’re Drunk , Loud and Obnoxious you’re simply Drunk, Loud and Obnoxious no matter what race you are. So these 11 women just need to Step Off like so many other Drunk and Obnoxious people had to before them. 11 MILLION DOLLARS? LMFAO

  • strata
    August 25, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    There are always 2 sides to every situation. I believe this group was indeed overly loud and inconsiderate regarding the other passengers. But I don’t side with those complaining because it was a public event with alcohol. That’s the chance you take. The company was stupid to to call police because any moron would know how much bad press this would eventually generate. It would have been better to piss off all the other passengers, than to allow this event to turn into a national discrimination rant. Fair or not, it’s just the times we live in. One last question I have, ……….. do you wonder if they did this on purpose hoping for attention and a new controversy ? Media girl was ready and documenting it all real time ……hhhhhmmmmmm…..

    Que “Good Morning America” … and the rest of the media outlets.

    • GIANNI
      October 1, 2015 at 1:12 pm

      OMG their feelings were hurt because they were loud and abnoxious when they were just asked to tone it down. They decided to get louder. The hell with the other paying customers.Now they want millions.Hell No . I hope they don’t get a penny. Total Set Up ! Girlfriend was so eager to post on social media. She was salivating at the mouth. Race Card? Really? How about Drunk and Loud. SAD. Private Company their rules. 3 warnings didn’t work. Are these women deaf or were they pushing and pushing so they could use the race card. SO SO SAD! Get a job!

  • StellaJ
    August 25, 2015 at 10:48 am

    We need a Turtleboy Book Club!

  • Kevins 9 Iron
    Frank Lee
    August 25, 2015 at 10:36 am

    “whatchu gonna do honey, kick us off the train? hahahahahahahahahaha”

  • RJ
    August 25, 2015 at 6:20 am

    Any group of 11 people having a good time is going to be too loud for a small enclosed area like a train. The train company should require groups that large to reserve their own car.

    • Adam
      August 25, 2015 at 7:47 am

      This is actually a pretty good idea.

    • GoneWest
      August 25, 2015 at 4:10 pm

      Then someone would be screaming about segregation

  • fordsnharleys
    August 24, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    If their laughter was bothering me I would have just asked to join them. I bet they’re all extremely interesting and friendly. I know some people have a laugh that goe s right through you but it beats the bitch ing of the C who complained.

  • Frogshit
    August 24, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    Though these broads were obnoxious and loud, I ain’t seein’ the “Black” thing here….
    Why did that have to come up? If it were 11 white chicks, sippin’ it up, causin’ shit, that raggedy old bitch woulda’ pissed and moaned just the same.

  • turtle boys momma
    August 24, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    Let me find out turtleboy fucked a black girl

    • GoneWest
      August 25, 2015 at 4:09 pm

      Why is everyone hating this? Sisters are beautiful

  • Amy
    August 24, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    I was thinking of taking this train years ago with my husband, we would have been hanging out with those women!

    • Frogshit
      August 24, 2015 at 5:37 pm

      Straight up!

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