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DCF Gives Unlimited Foster Kids To Slugpump Kim Malpass, But Not Loving Fitchburg Parents Who Spank Their Own Kids

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BOSTON (CBS/AP)The highest court in Massachusetts has ruled that the state child welfare agency acted legally when it denied a couple’s application to become foster parents because they spanked their children. Gregory and Melanie Magazu of Fitchburg said they use corporal punishment on their biological children in accordance with their Christian faith, but would not spank any foster children. A lawyer for the state said many foster children are traumatized, and seeing another child spanked could further traumatize them.

“There are so many unknowns as to what that child has experienced that it’s not appropriate in a home in which you’re putting a foster child,” assistant Attorney General Annapurna Balakrishna told the court in September.

The Magazus said the Department of Children and Families’s decision was “arbitrary and capricious,” and infringes on their constitutional religious rights. The Supreme Judicial Court’s decision Monday said the Magazus’ rights are outweighed by the department’s interest in protecting foster children.

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So let me get this straight. DCF will just keep feeding some slugpump like Kim Malpass foster children, despite the fact that she’s living with an ex-con in government housing, with five other kids under the same roof. But they won’t give it to this obviously stable and loving family because they give their own kids light spankings? Yea, that makes TONS of sense!!!

I assumed when I saw the headline that he was trying to spank the foster kids. I agree, that would be a little bit weird. But they’re only spanking their own kids, so what’s the problem? I understand these foster children have been through a lot and they’ve seen some shit before. I get all that. But at the end of the day, it doesn’t appear that foster parents are lining up to take these kids if the state keeps dumping children off with the likes of Kim Malpass.

I mean, just look at this family:

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Those people love each other. They wanna take in foster kids because they wanna make the world a better place and give the most at risk children a normal upbringing. But for some reason we can’t let them do that because they’ve spanked their own kids before. Another logical decision by a bunch of wussified Massachusetts judges.

Meanwhile, this is the same city (Fitchburg) where DCF allowed Jeremiah Oliver to live with his crackhead mother before her boyfriend murdered  him two years ago.

If I were these parents I would’ve left the religious stuff out of it. Once you start talking about the biblical reasoning for spanking your kid, you start looking like a weirdo. At least to your average Massachusetts justice. You spank your kid because they’re being assholes and you don’t want them to grow up to be bigger assholes. You spank out of love, not because the bible tells you to. That shit might work with the Supreme Judicial Court of Arkansas, but odds are it ain’t gonna fly with a bunch of Mike Dukakis appointed justices in Massachusetts. Even if that is your reasoning, just don’t say that at the court hearing or else this will be the result.

I hate how spanking has become this terrible thing now. Look, Turtleboy is not a big fan of corporal punishment. What Adrian Peterson did to his own kid was wrong, but that’s because he hit him with a Goddamn switch. But what the hell is a spanking? You’re literally hitting the softest part of the human body with an open hand. It’s nothing. The message gets sent and the shitty behavior is deterred. Mission accomplished.

P.S. I’m anxious to see if we get a hot take from Joe Social Worker about this one.

 

 

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18 Comment(s)
  • Chris From Georgia
    January 6, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    Unbelievable, the lesson here is that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has no common sense whatsoever! There are times when kids require a spanking.

  • Ash J
    January 6, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    I agree, there is no need to draw a comparison. When it comes to a child’s safety the lesser of two evils shouldn’t be an option. And to be honest, I would question the common sense of these parents in general. I mean unless you live under a rock it’s pretty safe to say that our justice system and especially our child service departments view spanking as a “no no”. Why would you apply to be a foster parent if you weren’t willing to change that discipline approach, regardless of your religion. which in my opinion is a desperate attempt to justify their choice to spank, (which IS their choice in my opinion, not that I agree). You can’t put a child who most likely has a history of trauma in a home where a child is being spanked, weather its them or not. Come on common sense here people! Neither Malpass or these parents are right for foster care. I cannot believe this is even a debate. And turtleboy, this just goes back to the point I made re; one of your other articles. Maybe we should start trying a different approach to rehabilitating families, because obviously the foster care thing isn’t working, and is so bad that we are now debating on which foster homes are the LEAST detrimental. Before you preach about this “loving” couple maybe you should look up some terms like “flash backs”, “triggers”. “emotional distress”, “PTSD”. You supposedly “care” so much about the welfare of children that you can rant and rant about horrible parents and make ethical judgement’s left and right yet you can’t seem to see how hypocritical your opinions are. You took such a strong stance on the boy who was beaten by the mothers boyfriend, and appeared so emotionally invested in the story. Now lets say that boy ends up in this loving couples foster home, and he can see or at least hear other children being spanked and the screams and cries that I can only assume go along with spanking. Now let me ask you this turtleboy, do you think that a child will be able to differentiate between what happened to him and to the spankings? Do you think he will be able to understand that its ok to hit a child but only if its your religion? Do you think it’s ethical, moral and RESPONSIBLE to subject a child who has been abused to a daily reminder of the hell they have already gone through? Please feel free to clarify your point because its looking to me like you don’t actually have an opinion, you just take the stance that will cause the most debate.

    • JosieFosterParent
      January 6, 2016 at 2:34 pm

      Well said!

    • TargetPractice
      January 6, 2016 at 3:53 pm

      Lady, i got a life, I’m not reading a fucking college dissertation in TB’s comment section, had to hit the shift button twice to make your shit get of my screen, wtf.

      • Ash J
        January 6, 2016 at 4:51 pm

        Totally understandable, educated comments may seem like gibberish on this website, I understand if it’s hard to follow. Hopefully pressing that shift button twice didn’t cause too much damage.

        • xayxel
          January 6, 2016 at 8:17 pm

          …Except that as it turns out, the human body actually adapts better (i.e. becomes stronger) when it is subject to REASONABLE physical forces; it becomes stronger and more resilient. That’s Biology, not opinion. That’s how exercise works for instance. Just as in nature where a tree subject to wind instead of stale air has a tendency to be stronger, or when a person who can take name calling every now and then that may inconvenience them doesn’t end up in therapy for being so frail. If the body is not subject to any physical stimulation whatsoever, when a child actually falls and hurts themselves just by the act of playing, the very real situation of getting a bruise, or some injury is amplified. Who wants to live with a higher chance of PTS syndrome just because their parents coddled them their whole lives ? It’s those higher amplitudes of trauma that effect a person more. From a Darwin point of view, such an organism becomes weaker.

          Spanking does not traumatize an individual — it’s the crazy parents that abuse the use of spanking. Smoking, Guns, Drinking, doesn’t kill an individual it’s the abuse of… never mind

          • Skeptical
            January 7, 2016 at 2:29 pm

            As a powerlifter with far more experience being under extremely heavy pressure and “reasonable force” with a fair share of my own injuries, I can say you are completely wrong, and probably stupid. Injury leads to weakness, whereas working muscles to *pre* failure (do NOT work to failure) become stronger-very slowly.

            This DOES NOT apply to injuries, torn muscles, skin abrasions, or any other form of damage you take. As research has recently shown the “micro-tear” theory of muscle breaking and building is complete shit. Muscles having micro-tears cause injures and tendonitis. Muscles that get stronger simply do not tear, at any level.

          • xayxel
            January 7, 2016 at 9:32 pm

            Hey ‘Skeptical’, I never said to ‘failure’ at all, did I… I said REASONABLE, which is subjective, but based on its definition insinuates common sense. I never even mentioned the word ‘tear’. Thanks for the pointless fitness lecture though, even though that wasn’t the point of my post. Read the paragraph again, and you’ll realize you actually agree with me: ‘Reasonable’ would suggest to ‘pre-failure’, you idiot. By the way, the theme was about spanking, not a power lifting session. I hate to have to call you a moron..

          • Skeptical
            January 8, 2016 at 1:04 pm

            Lol you’re pretty laughable, and still dumb.

            It’s called an example made by context. And there is nothing “reasonable” about a bruise, swelling, or any other kind of abrasion to skin, flesh, or any other body part for that matter.

            I made a comparison based in scientific literature to show how the old “Nietzsche” philosophy is a load of shit.

            But thank you anyway, you’re certainly not as smart as you think you are.

          • Skeptical
            January 8, 2016 at 1:10 pm

            And by the way, there’s another massive black hole in your point. Once again, you “turtle riders” demonstrate the intellectual capacity of a six year old.

            If the body part in question being struck makes them more resilient (it doesn’t, but I will grant the absurdity, I am feeling generous) then perhaps by your rationale we should spank the areas that will fall and get hit, like knees, and hands. Great idea, and here I thought mental toughness has little to do with physical intervention.

            Spanking has, and does traumatize kids. Not all of them, but certainly some. So your point is *still* bunk.

            Keep trying kid-you’ll get that GED someday I am sure.

          • xayxel
            January 8, 2016 at 5:55 pm

            Hey Skeptical, I think you were missing the point of the ANALOGY I was making — of how muscles and body parts develop more resilience by working to ‘pre-failure’ (as you put it, even though this wasn’t meant to be a powerlifting/exercise science lecture) to serve as an analogy of how some REASONABLE physical force applied to disciplining someone by spanking can induce some resilience. I was thinking more ’emotional’ resilience, and not literally physical resilience via spanking (if you want to know), but I guess geeks like you need clarification. Anyway, even YOU agreed that spanking does not traumatize all kids. I just tried to elaborate on the reason why then spanking isn’t so bad from the start if done reasonably — and the reason for why it shouldn’t traumatize all kids is because if you do it with a REASONABLE amount of force and not abuse, then it shouldn’t be as vilified as goofballs like you seem to insinuate it as.

            I never mentioned anything about ‘ bruise, swelling, or any other kind of abrasion to skin, flesh, or any other body part for that matter’ in my first post either. That’s all you; that’s you reliving your biased views and trying to convince yourself that I had somehow said all those things from the start. Had I said that, then I would agree with you; getting those when spanked would not be a ‘reasonable’ way you should be spanking if you have to discipline your kids.
            The moral of the story is, you’re just so caught up with some biased traumatized past that you’re going seeing all this in some extreme, and like many people who can’t rationalize a bit, you only hear what you want to hear and can’t even see how you are full of contradictions when you talk. The first one would be calling me dumber than you when you have gaping holes in your logic. Hey, maybe you didn’t deserve a beat-down that someone obviously gave you when you were younger, but you sound like a D-bag now; Please leave a link for works cited though, because I’m willing to read up on the ‘scientific literature’ you were talking about, even if it has nothing to do with what I was literally trying to say about spanking —
            I don’t know; I got spanked back in the day, and I even suffered greater physical traumas along the way (undeserved), but it didn’t traumatize me as it seemed to effect you.

            Let’s not argue anymore; it’s pointless. I can be an asshole too I suppose. I happen to know much about power-lifting as well (more than you may know), but even I don’t care; stupid debates that have nothing to do with the point of this article are just Easter eggs for the readers. Good article TB

    • Squirtleboy
      January 7, 2016 at 12:50 am

      And yes as a young child I could tell the difference

    • Foster mom
      May 21, 2017 at 10:06 pm

      Very good points. I would not place a child who has suffered physical abuse in the care of this particular family.

      HOWEVER, surely not all foster children have had that trauma. There surely is at least one child who needs a loving home that can benefit from this family who is willing to give them one.

  • Skeptical
    January 6, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    I was beaten as a kid. I simply can’t get behind this idea.

    Neither Malpass, nor these people should have children, foster or not. Period. End of discussion.

    • TTT
      January 6, 2016 at 9:14 pm

      Spanking does not equal beating.

      Sorry you were beaten, and I understand your concern. However, they are NOT the same.

      • Skeptical
        January 7, 2016 at 2:25 pm

        No, they are very similar.

        You do not need to teach a child that the response to bad behavior is violence. My father was a reasonable guy and thank God for that, because he raised me to be a good person. No physical punishment necessary.

    • Squirtleboy
      January 7, 2016 at 12:48 am

      I was beaten by a bipolar woman who’d use anything within reach to beat on me. On the other hand My father never laid a finger on me (two different houses) but he definitely shouldve slapped me more than a couple times. Sometimes it’s needed. There’s a difference

    • Skeptical
      January 7, 2016 at 2:31 pm

      All 15 downvotes without any sort of logical, reasoned response are fucking cowards, in every sense of the word.

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