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Turtleboy has been very outspoken about the confederate flag issue in the past. You can read about it here, here, and here. Our take is simple – it’s a flag that represents an imaginary country that only existed in the minds treasonous pussy terrorists who declared war on America which led to the deaths of 650,000 Americans and the death of the greatest president in American history. No publicly funded institution (like the South Carolina statehouse) should be flying that flag. But if you wanna be a moron and convince yourself that you’re sticking it to the man by putting one on the back of your truck, then that’s your right. That’s why this story from Masslive really grinds my gears. Excerpts from the article are italicized and Turtleboy’s rational thoughts follow in bold.
Masslive: A veteran Greenfield police officer is under scrutiny for allegedly displaying a Confederate flag on property he owns in Greenfield.The officer has been identified as Sgt. Dan McCarthy, commander of the detective bureau and the Police Department’s official liaison to the town’s Human Rights Commission.
The Confederate flag hanging on a wall inside McCarthy’s Shelburne Road garage is visible to passersby when the door is open, according to Rod and Lindel Hart, McCarthy’s neighbors and the concerned parents of Hugh Hart, the couple’s adopted 10-year-old son, who is black. Critics of the police sergeant have taken to social media to voice their disapproval, and the Harts are leading the charge.
It’s absolutely INSANE that this is an issue for this police officer in Greenfield. It’s his house and he can fly whatever flag he wants to fly in there. Maybe he’s a Civil War buff who collects memorabilia. None of my business because it’s in his garage.
Rod Hart, in a Facebook post Monday evening, wrote that Greenfield Mayor Bill Martin stopped by the family’s home to “shake our hands and to hug Hugh and … let him know that he is committed to making Greenfield safe for all.” The father said he was “touched” by the mayor’s gesture, characterizing the visit as “unexpected and kind.”
“Hugh could not believe that the mayor actually visited HIS house,” Rod said. “I honestly believe that this simple gesture really set Hugh’s mind at ease. Very cool.”
Why are they acting like meeting the mayor of Greenfield is some sort of honor. It’s freaking GREENFIELD. It’s the size of Holden. What else does the Mayor of Greenfield have to do?
On Tuesday evening, Greenfield Police Chief Robert Haigh and Deputy Chief Mark Williams stopped by the Harts’ home to meet Hugh, according to Rod.
Martin said he discussed the flag issue with Haigh on Monday, and both men agreed that Haigh would educate McCarthy on the department’s code of conduct, according to The Recorder. “The code says that no behavior should reflect badly on the department or town as a whole. I would say something like this does,” Martin told the Greenfield newspaper.
Seriously? This is how police officers and private citizens are treated by the Mayor of Greenfield? They get spoken to in order to “educate” them about political correctness? What planet am I living on? Then again Franklin County is basically a bizarro hippie paradise. It’s why so many of their towns ended up on Top hippie towns list. The Mayor more than likely represents the will of the people up there.
Rod Hart said his son “has become increasingly aware of police antagonism against young black males and is understandably worried” about the Confederate flag hanging in McCarthy’s garage, which is “easily viewable from the street when his garage is open.” Rod said Hugh has even wished for “Santa to bring him white skin … so he won’t get shot” when he leaves home.
Nope. That’s a lie. I’ll bet you my world famous Nantucket horse ranch that this 10 year old kid did not wish that Santa brought him white skin for Christmas so he wouldn’t get shot. That’s just a lie that these two assholes made up to dramatize this whole situation. Because 10 year olds don’t think about the cops killing them on their own. Adults are the ones who teach them that cops are the bad guys. And this is the sort of nonsense that Rod and Todd have been posting on Facebook:
Hugh’s parents said they have always told their son that Greenfield is a safe place, that the Police Department “is a benevolent brotherhood of peacekeepers.” But after seeing McCarthy’s Southern flag, the family’s view of cops as peacekeepers has changed.
“Now I have no way to convince my 10-year-old son that his neighbor is not a racist, redneck cop,” Rod said, wondering how a police officer could display a Confederate flag when he has “a 10-year-old black boy as a next-door neighbor.”
You have no way to convince your son that your neighbor isn’t a racist, redneck cop? First of all, why is it OK to label him as a racist and a redneck? Why is it OK to publicly demean people who you know nothing about? Your entire assessment of this guy stems from the fact that you’re spying on him and you jumped to the conclusion that the confederate flag in his garage means that he likes to kill little black boys for sport. This is what’s wrong with PC America. You can call someone a racist or a redneck and everyone’s fine with it, but everyone else is off limits.
And since Dad seems unable to come up with a way to convince his son that his neighbor isn’t a racist redneck, allow Turtleboy to help you out with that. Here’s what you could tell your son:
“Yes son, that’s a confederate flag. It’s a battle flag that the South used during the Civil War. They fought for lots of reasons, but the most important was the issue of slavery, which the south wanted to keep. They were in the wrong because slavery was a bad thing. We don’t know why he has that, but it’s in his own house and it’s not hurting anyone. We wouldn’t like it if someone looked into our home and judged us because it’s important to respect each other’s privacy. That man is a police officer, and if you were in a car accident, or you got beat up, or robbed, he would be the first one to help you out. He would give his life for you because he is brave and has a dangerous job.”
Nah, fuck that. That’s too responsible. Lets fill our 10 year old sons brain with fear and hate instead. That way he can grow up to be a miserable, anti-police radical like us.
And whatever happened to just talking to your neighbors? These pretentious DOOSHNOZZLES look into their neighbor’s garage and see something they don’t happen to like, and instead of just addressing it with him directly, they go to the press, the mayor, and the chief of police? How has it come to this? Why not knock on his door and tell him about your concerns? Maybe it’s all just a big misunderstanding. Nah, screw that. Let’s try this one in the court of public opinion instead.
What happened here is that Dad and Dad are all in on the black lives matter stuff. Just check out his most recent Facebook post:
I think he meant Michael Brown and Eric Garner. But then again, facts are obviously irrelevant to this poopsmooch because all of the people he just listed either assaulted police officers or actively resisted arrest. So long as Hugh doesn’t grow up to be a criminal, his interactions with the police will be limited and positive. I mean, “I’m more afraid of my son being shot by a cop than by ISIS??” Who says something like that? Who tells their kid that cops are more dangerous than an international terrorist organization? How much of an asshole do you have to be?
To make matters worse it turns out this guy is a middle school teacher in Northampton. He posted this on Facebook not too long ago:
How is this appropriate? A teacher groping a half naked picture of John Cena in his classroom and then posting on Facebook about how he can’t teach because he’s too turned on by it. This is OK, but a guy with a confederate flag inside his garage that you saw while you were spying on him isn’t OK and that cop is worse than ISIS. Makes sense.
And then he posts stuff like this:
Because in PC America it’s OK for public servants to publicly shit all over Jews, Catholics, and any other religion they want. It’s not hate speech if you’re demeaning people who have faith, but a confederate flag in your neighbor’s garage won’t be tolerated.
And it’s OK for his students to go on his openly public Facebook page and see that this is what he is thinking when he looks at them:
This is OK? The Northampton Public Schools are just COOL with this? I’d love to see people bombard the administration at JFK middle school to let them know that their teacher looks at his 8th graders and says, “Shut the fuck up.” Here’s a link to their contact info.
The bottom line is that Rod Hart represents everything that is wrong with society. If his neighbor had an ISIS flag in his garage, he wouldn’t even care. Because as usual, the tolerance crowd shows that their tolerance only exists if you align with their worldview.
And his poor son. He’s the real victim here. Here you have this kid who has an opportunity to grow up in a predominantly white community and learn to get along with people who look differently than him. And what do they do? They fill his head with propaganda and hate and teach him to learn how to become a victim. They are raising him to think that it’s OK to call your neighbor a racist and publicly humiliate them. They’re raising him to obsess about the issue of race, as opposed to just getting along with everyone you encounter. They’re raising him to judge a book by its cover and rush to judgement when in doubt. They’re raising him to hate cops. And as a result poor Hugh is on the road to be the next in a long line of whiny, lifelong victims.
Worst of all is that I feel like Rod and Todd want a cookie for having a black son. Like they’re doing this huge service for the world. But at the end of the day they really wanted to adopt a child of color so they could use him in a prop for their radical, anti-cop agenda.
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This is really indisputable.
Wait wait wait, people ACTUALLY believe that if someone’s just not a criminal that guarantees that their interactions with police will be few and mostly positive? That’s cute. And is the fact that parents of black children have to have talks with them about the police and staying safe FROM them, and the fact that some police antagonize people based on their skin color, nonsense somehow? If you believe that you’re living under a rock and are just blind to the privilege you have that you do not have to worry about such things.
Hey MEF – You told TB not to label people. …….. you sound stupid. Then you proceed to call others gun crazy fucking morons. Really?? Label much?? HYPOCRITE.
AMEN BECKY
A year ago people didnt care if there were 10 confederate flag flying in every yard. because some red neck shot up a church and had one on his jacket or where ever all of a sudden it is the most dangerous piece of cloth on earth.
Give me a break
I’m just curious how he managed to get a picture you must of had to be on the property to get a close up of a flag,so if that’s the case he has no business being on someones property taking pictures without the owners knowledge.Another is someone could have told him to go take a picture since he’s a kid and nobody would think nothing about it,if that was the case that’s pretty slick of someone who thought of that. What’s in his garage is nobody’s business. This offending stuff is getting way over the top,stop looking for trouble and get on with your lives.
On the camera point-you can actually get a decent camera with a decent zoom for a relatively low price. So, the picture could have been taken from off the property.
“What’s in his garage is nobody’s business.” Not necessarily all of the time. Granted-this time, yes. But not all of the time.
What if he saw something truly nefarious? And that goes for any person.
Flag hanging up? Nobody’s business but your own.
Meth lab in your garage? Ok – NOW we have an issue.
I think the parents are more concerned with getting attention than they really are about their child’s safety.
Officer Mccarthy was my neighbor growing up and he was always a great guy. He took time to get to know us. Sick to see this hppening in my old neighborhood to a man who doesn’t deserve it.
I also agree with 99% of the opinions stated here. A few things to note though:
Don’t talk about putting labels on people when everyone up here is “A bunch of Hippies” comments like that make you look stupid
I noticed people posted “Dad and Dad” a bunch of times about the nutty neighbors. If they can’t say their son is black. Don’t comment on them being gay. It’s thinly veiled Homophobia
And finally. All of you people who have an unnatural dislike for our President. Show some respect for the office. You hear the word liberal or republican and label someone immediately. He is just a man trying to do a job. Plus what has he done that is so bad? ( insert Fox News propaganda here) I think a majority of the people in this country are morons. Gun crazy fucking morons. You can’t have it both ways. Unfettered rights to what you think is right because it’s a free country. But anti abortion, anti gay marriage, anti immigration. Trump will be the death nail in the Republican Party.
A true conservative would mind their own fucking business when it comes to what other people do with their lives.
Be careful being liberal around here. I agree with most of TB’s articles and I still catch a world of shit.
Make that two of us Wabbitt.
A lot of the time you and I make sensible points that are evidence based that don’t agree with the ultra-conservative narrative we get shit on.
I guess us middle-of-the-roaders are the true outcasts. People firmly mired in their respective left and right political camps will never accept our views.
To Hell with neutral sensibility gentlemen!
I don’t always get called a moron, but when I do it’s usually by someone who says they would vote for Sarah Palin.
Do you want us to call them Mom and Dad?
Why dont we all just fly a plain white flag or would that offend people as well
Yes. Because anything white has inherent privilege. #blackflagsmatter
I’m guessing the guy got some backlash of his own. His facebook is locked down now!
Having lived in the rural south for several years, I have a different perspective. Although I agree with your view of the right to privacy and with your view of the meaning of the Confederate flag, I have seen that flag used as a means to intimidate – primarily blacks, but also anyone who is not a “Christian”. Now, bear in mind that many in the South, particularly in the more rural areas, believe that Catholics are not Christian and that Catholics practice paganism because of the Catholic belief in (and prayers to) the Virgin Mary and the saints. Being Christian is often seen as exclusive to Southern Baptists.
That being said, I get that this is not the rural South, and I believe in the right of all people to do whatever they want in their own homes. However, I question the wisdom of the liaison to the Human Rights Commission’s displaying that flag in his garage if he plans to leave his garage door open long enough for someone to take a picture. It is his absolute right to do so, and I stand by that right, but he should have some aforethought given his position. No need to trouble trouble if you don’t want trouble. . .
As for how the neighbors should have addressed the issue, I again agree with you. No one seems able to talk to anyone anymore and everyone immediately goes to the best and most sensational way to make a mountain out of a molehill.
This country has gone plum crazy. He has every right to put whatever he chooses in his home. And that letter by the father….wtf…raising a child to be prejudice against police officers, and doing so in support of criminals. A criminal is a criminal no matter what race or color. If these men in his letter were white there would not be this conversation. People of all colors and races would be saying nice job, one more criminal off the street. Wtf people…wake up and stop being brainwashed by the Obsma administration. Leave McCarthy alone it is not racist, he is not racist, the flag is not a threat to anyone. To the father who started this….Raise your child to obey the law, and respect authority and I promise you your child will be fine. Greenfield police are some of the finest out there. The love thier community, and are wonderful with the children in it. Don’t teach your child to hate or fear them….or you will raise a criminal.
What nosey spying a-hole neighbor! Good for TB exposing this guy for what he is. I hope the Superintendent’s phone is lit up for his inappropriate Facebook post. Maybe the guy is a Dukes of Hazard fan. Maybe he hung the flag in memory of the recent passing of James Best. Kekekeke. In any case, he should mind his own business and get a life.
I can’t help but laugh at the irony here. Greenfield Police Department has a facebook page where they publically humiliate people they have arrested. They post their pictures and crimes in an effort to sway public opinion. I guess this is a big dose of karma kicking one of them in the ass.
Most of the police departments do that!!! It’s public knowledge! Guess what…..don’t be an idiot and get arrested and your picture won’t be on FB! Not to mention it’s not Karma! The officers have no control over who posts what pictures! That is their job to arrest people who break the law! This is an attack on this man on a personal level! Completely different! And quite frankly the police department doesn’t humiliate these people….they do it themselves! It’s no different than the police logs or court logs in the newspapers! It’s all public knowledge!
AMEN BECKY
The Greenfield Police Department Facebook page is a great asset in transparency with the public. Those that show reasonable cause to be arrested for crimes they may have committed is everyone’s business. If people are humiliated by their appearance on the page then perhaps they should not do things to humiliate themselves. Blaming the police for your indiscretions is a cop out of your personal responsibility as a citizen. We have far to many in this town who accept bad morals and bad behavior as normal. Just look to the benches on main street and you see the problem. Just don’t post it on facebook because we don’t actually want anyone to see who they are.
Anyone who can not take two seconds to read the facts surrounding Mr Browns death and come to a reasonable decision that Darren Wilson had no choice in that matter is a complete and utter moron…TB has posted obvious facts that the guy is cop hater..Not very hard to put two and two together..Great job they are doing raising that boy to be a victim
TBS Rule #1: If you’re going to throw stones, don’t have an embarrassing Facebook
TB, thanks for exposing this guy Hart. We live in a society full of lies, fake outrage, and people who feel irrelevant, so they create controversies to feel meaningful. I don’t believe his kid asked Santa for that either. I believe nobody really believes him either …. and I’m sure he probably doesn’t have any “real” friends in life. Sad really. I avoid people like this. And I’m not alone.
First, the child probably didn’t even know what that flag represented until mommy and daddy gave them their explanation. How did they explain to him why they were spying on him in his garage?
Second, I have a neighbor who accuses everyone of being racist….They are white and adopted a black teenager….the only time I see him is when he is doing yard work…alone…..just sayin’
You mean daddy and daddy in this case
Your last paragraph was exactly what I thought. There is no need to state his son’s skin color. Especially on a site that usually consists of the followers being friends or family.
Darren Wilson should have remorse that Mike Brown decided he was going to rob a store and fail to repeatedly comply with lawful order and then grab for a gun. Brown himself probably expected that the officer would shoot him but thought he was bigger stronger and quicker and had the advantage of leverage. He was wrong.