Today’s lesson in hypocrisy comes from this lovely lady, Leda Fisher, a woke AF student from Dickinson College in Pennsylvania.
Leda recently wrote an op-ed in her school’s newspaper, “The Dickinsonian” entitled “Should White Boys Still Be Allowed to Talk?”. Oh, to be in college again. What an incendiary title. So evocative. Someone’s womens/black/BLT-123 studies professor is probably beaming with pride. It would be bold, if it wasn’t the norm right now. Instead, unfortunately, it’s just bland and contrived. Sorry, Leda.
But relax. I’m not going to overly critique your work. I’m not going to call my readers to action against you, and I don’t want to see you censored or silenced. What I am going to do, is I’m going to bite your work, but just for a moment, Leda. But just to prove a point, I’ll link your original at the end. I promise, my edits will be minor, albeit the effect may not be.
Should White Boys Black Girls Still Be Allowed to Talk?
A slightly edited work by Leda Fisher Bristol Turtlechick
“When you ask a question at a lecture, is it secretly just your opinion ending with the phrase “do you agree?” If so, your name is something like LaKeisha, or Rashanda, or Diamond, and you were taught that your voice is the most important in every room. Somewhere along your academic journey, you decided your search for intellectual validation was more important than the actual exchange of information. Now how do you expect to actually learn anything?
American society tells women, but especially black women, that their opinions have merit and that their voice is valuable, but after four years of listening to black girls in college, I am not so convinced. In my time at Dickinson I have listened to probably hundreds of black girls talk. It feels incessant. From classes and lectures, to the news and politics, there is an endless line of black girls waiting to share their opinions on the state of feminism in America, whether the LGBTQ+ population finally has enough rights, the merits of capitalism, etc. The list of what black girls think they are qualified to talk about is endless. Something very few of them seem to understand is that their (ill-informed, uncritical) opinions do not constitute truth. In fact, most often their opinions aren’t even original. Black girls spout the narrative of dominant ideologies and pretend they’re hot takes instead of the same misleading garbage shoved down our throats by American institutions from birth.
I am so g****mned tired of listening to black girls. I cannot describe to you how frustrating it is to be forced to listen to a black girl explain her take on the white experience in the Obama-era. Hey Rochelle, I’m an actual white man alive right now with a brain. In what world would your understanding of my life carry more weight than my understanding? Unfortunately, it is this world, where black women debate the pain of other people for fun and then take away their rights. The second thing most black girls seem not to understand is that they do not exist separate from the rest of the world. You do not speak alone, you speak with the weight of every other black woman who has spoken over a woman, erased the contributions of average people from history, or denigrated “intact English” as unintelligent.You speak with the weight of policies and laws meant to forever define intelligence by how it measures up to the intersectional feminists of America.
So, should black girls still be allowed to share their “opinions”? Should we be forced to listen? In spite of Black History Month, I’m gonna go with a hell no. Go find someone whose perspective has been buried or ignored and listen to them, raise up their voice. To all the Ashantis, Rochelles, Myas, and LaTishas out there, I encourage you to critically examine where your viewpoints come from, read a text that challenges you without looking for reasons to dismiss it, and maybe try listening from now on.”
I’m sure you are outraged by the few words I’ve changed, because I would assume my edits carry a lot of weight. This isn’t an issue of me wanting to elevate the cisgendered white men of the world to a level they do not collectively or individually deserve – this my lesson to you on true equality. You see, Leda, the cold hard truth of the world is your voice does not becoming stronger by smiting another’s. Speaking in such vast and definitive generalizations are the seeds from which true bigotry and racism are sewn – and it doesn’t matter which color you code it. You didn’t write a discussion piece, nor did I edit it into one. When you write, “Somewhere along your academic journey, you decided your search for intellectual validation was more important than the actual exchange of information. Now how do you expect to actually learn anything?” You illustrate how oblivious you are to your own message, and your preceding paragraphs preach the stifling of another group’s speech. My edits were small, but resounding – and turn your piece into something somehow even more universally distasteful. Attempting to undermine or marginalize an entire group based on a perceived, or even real, slight does not equate to empowerment. It simply keeps the wheels of division turning. These white boys you lambaste may have a perspective of some value to you, and vise versa. By demanding they be silent to allow only your voice to be heard is the ultimate hypocrisy, to no one’s benefit – least of all your own. I don’t say this as a white woman to a young black girl – but as an older, somewhat wiser woman to a younger counterpart. You are entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine, and I don’t want your voice silenced, although I do hope that you don’t stay so shut off that your perspective is stunted to these narrow and hate-filled words written at such a young point in your life. Please, instead of the knee jerk reaction so typical of your generation, stop for a minute, and think about what that means.
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90 Comment(s)
This Macrame’ headed Leda has a melon that looks like a stress ball that’s begging to be squished.
Or maybe it’s more like Wilson from that Tom Hanks movie but rolled in shit and a filthy mop head stuck on top.
She needs her colonic tract to be line bored, racist piglet.
She’s a fine candidate for a pink sock, once the seed is spilled in her butt guts.
I lawyered up! What victim doesnt lawyer up! Same lawyer as loupicka and Rob B’Orgys too (higher price and LSAT score than Vulva)!
Anyone watch Empire last night ?
Victimhood is a poor painkiller to cure the sting of personal failure.
Hi everyone, i’m Bristol! I LIVE the double standards I’m so outraged by.
Oh and ps I’m not really a she (but shhh don’t tell, it’s suppose to be a secret) … I’m really Uncle’s inner Diva, and I wanted to play too damnit!
Let’s all see how quickly TB censors this (again) … you know MR F Facebook for censorship.
The [Turtleboy] is a bewildered soldier of outrage culture, deeply emboldened by complex and contradictory pseudo-sociology pepper by meaningless terms dressed up as serious fact. [Turtleboy] is obsessed with picking at the scabs of [society], trying to draw fresh blood, and are often seen lumbering around, finding [issue] at every turn. [Their] causes have no credibility, no clear motivation, and no semblance of logic. Now that the well has all but dried up, the sediment that remains are perpetually miserable shrews expending boundless energy in making other [people] as brutally unhappy as [turtleboy].
Leda is why my company now requires 5 years experience for an entry level position.
We want nothing to do with recent college graduates.
Mr F FB for censoring my free speech … goes around and deletes comments. Priceless!
They don’t like this, they don’t like that
They’re never satisfied and that’s a fact
They more we give, the more they take
The more we fix, the more they break
The country’s in an awful mess
With a whole lotta civil unrest
I got one thing to suggest
They outta leave, and get gone
Gather up all the ngers
And go back home
Go ahead everyone, claim I’m a liberal trying to make “conservatives” look bad lol.
I swear, a black guy could rape your fucking wives and you’d have to do double time when explaining that you’re a “conservative, not a racist and I think the content of this man’s character is poor”.
In many ways that’s what your doing with your country.
you’re a fucking idiot.
Looks like Dan Margolis rustled up some change to pay his internet connection bill this week.
Look at that Bristol, when you make some edits to your own articles … and replace feminist with turtleboy, it too points out some pretty glaring double standards.
Introspection babe, learn it, use it.
So, are you failed, barely literature “journalist” Bill Shaner, or the swine swamp mom herself? I’ll narrow it down pretty quickly, don’t worry – that should give you a little bit of a clue as to my “day job”. Think, halfwit. Think hard.
Leda could’ve just as easily written her editorial from a fat chick’s perspective who’s tired of thin, fit folks ignoring or dismissing her. She’s already “thicc” (aka, “fat”) and well on her way to being just another obese, diabetic black woman who licks her fingers after each bite of deep-fried something-or-other.
I’m old, and history wasn’t my best subject, but if I remember correctly wasn’t Jewish people white? How can she (or anyone) say reverse racism isn’t a thing because no white people have suffered or been marginalized by another group of people?
The Jewish community have been through a ton of horrible shit, and some are still alive to remember. Not one person alive today has ever been a slave or owned a slave, and yet SJW’S still think white people owe poc for something that never happened to them, and something that never was done by them.
not to mention the Irish, Armenian, both white races that were persecuted.
Anyone else think B is really just AK’s inner DIVA come out to play?
Asking for a friend …
Just because you change your name from mass girl to mass guy doesnt mean we dont all still know its you Miss KC Hill .. Get off Turtlboys dick before you end up in the turtle graveyard… You are definitely one crazy ass bitch.. I said it before Ill say it again get off the internet its no place for you.. Go to rehab get off the pain meds and addys and your multiple illness will clear up… Thats a FACT.Miss WarWacko
Dear I see dumb people,
May I suggest you stop looking in the mirror?
Dear War Wacko may i suggest again getting off thte internet .. Just because you change whatever handle your using doesnt mean we cant all still see who you truly are KC Narcissistic hahahah we can tell its you by tge insanity that you spew out… War wacko
Amazong write Bristol.. So happy to see someone stand up to the real racism in this county!!! My applause to you .. Keep on being you.. You will make a differance in this ass backwards country. You fucking rock girl!!!
Oh Bristol you represent my scared little voice so well! Thanks for making me feel like less of an asshole! I now know I have a tribe of other assholes too!
This is OUTSTANDING journalism. Yes I said journalism., albeit with an edge. What are good (great) news articles? They inspire introspective thought, take counter opinions and present them in a way that challenges the times accepted social mores and thoughts, and generate robust discussion and opinions.
Each year some New England organization gives awards to newspapers for ‘hard hitting” stories. The freakin Cape Cod Times just won 38, and they suck.
Bristol is more than deserving of such platitudes, well done!
Counter opinion? Yeah right, more like main stream white trash opinion.
Challenging social mores? …. haha haha BS …. more like upholding long held social mores.
I think your MAGA hat fell over your eyes dude. You’re operating blind. Or just have poor taste when it comes to “hard hitting” and “journalism” .
We oughta send ’em all back to Africa
We oughta send ’em all back to Africa
They oughta get the hell out of America
And leave the white man alone
They want their way, it ain’t no doubt
They just keep pushin’, they never stop
They don’t like the way things are done
They outta go back to where they come from
So white people I’m askin’ you
Let’s buy us a boat or two
And here’s what we need to do
Help ’em pack, and be kind
Make sure we don’t leave
One ngger behind
Such a sad attempt to try and make conservatives look bad.
You should give Jussie Smollett a call.
Wow Y,
You must be a Koshervative.
Too bad Trump kissed the wall with the yamaca on his head.
Gross.
Don’t you get it, they’re calling for the death and exile of white men from society,. literally writing articles telling white women to stop breeding with whites.
And they’re being elected to our government in record fashion.
THIS is bigger than the left-right paradigm, this is complete and all out war being waged on white people.
You can wave your flag all you want and scream from the rooftops that conservation’s aren’t racist, they’re constitutional, they’re for small government….listen, the black extremists, post modernist whites are coming for the white conservatives first, then the white liberals, until were marginalized on a continent our fathers fought to conquer. This is bigger than your “political beliefs” you idiot.
Scared white male literally believes whiteness is under attack. Totally blind to the lack of equality that still exists in this country. Refusing to change his preconceived notions, choosing instead to be motivated by fear thrust onto him by the GOP (hey it’s their strategy and you’re a sucker).
So what. The girl is a ignorant bigot. The norm for lefties. I miss the old days of liberals.
Jesus, paint this girl blue and she could star in the Avatar sequel.
I like Bristol’s counter article to show how it would sound against another group(in this case, the original author’s). It definitely does NOT sound good. Nor reads well. But this was an article written be a college kid, clearly lacking a view tempered by age and wisdom. At the end of the day, kids will be kids.
These “kids” will be reporting their parents to Big Brother if they don’t bow down to their Leftist, fascist, totalitarian dogma. The US version of Mao’s Cultural Revolution is alive and growing stronger every day – especially on our college campuses.
Can I get an amen!!
On a happier note, Hampshire College is starting to circle the drain:
https://www.masslive.com/business/2019/02/hampshire-college-lays-off-9-staff-members.html
9 is a start. I think that place is a joke. I think everyone that works there is a joke.
I think the President and Trustees are just quite sane enough to read the economic tea leaves and
decided that at the rate they are going they are going to fail.
Especially if colleges in Mass. have to have 4 years worth of money in escrow to ensure the freshmen can graduate, which is being proposed.
What part of “WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH FUCKING MONEY TO KEEP THIS GOING FOR MORE THAN A FEW YEARS” is going over the protesters heads?
She’s just mad because all the black guys want white women, but no white guys want black women, so sorry honey, I’m not buying into your bullshit, not even on double coupon days . . . . now sit down, and shut up !
And I would have said “stated repeatedly” in that sentence.
Less awkward.
Randall Guy is too stupid to reply to a comment correctly.
What a dumb fuck.
The school newspaper also has the obligatory racist notes in a bathroom and that must not stand!!!
Another article
“Student Activists Promote Positive Queer and Trans Body Image”.
The college has an affiliation with Oberlin College.
That’s the college in 2013 that canceled classes for the day because someone reported some female student wrapped in a white blanket as a Klan member.
Hey I’ve got one for ya.
What do you call a Mexican who’s car was stolen? Car los!
A counter article in the same paper.
https://thedickinsonian.com/opinion/2019/02/14/yes-racism-is-alive-and-well/
Leda and Addie got roasted in that counter article and the comments. I guess there’s hope in our younger generations (excepting MassGirl, of course).
Jesus Christ Bristol I don’t get it.
You searched out and are upset about what some college student in Pennsylvania wrote.
She’s upset about white buys etc. etc.
Here’s a tip dummy, neither of you are nearly as important as you think you are so lighten up.
Try to have some fun and enjoy life. Stop looking for things to bitch about you miserable hack or you’ll die a bitter and angry old maid.
Having a platform that’s based on outrage culture and then thinking anyone’s going take you seriously when you complain about others outrage is F-ing priceless!
PS if you start pretending Bristol is brilliant at satire (instead of just ignorant of her cultural conditioning) this site gets way more humorous!
Its the WarWacko again.. Hi bitch so wich is it Mass Girl Mass Guy or MG… Kinda like your real life multiple personalitues huh ?
Good one. I can’t stop fucking laughing. I love all of the humor here keep up the great work!
Holy fuck what the hell has happened to this site? Everything is so fucking serious now.
I know right? Let’s just watch sportsball and ignore our country disintegrating.
Google.
Youtube Dickens Cider Bob And Tom
I haven’t listened to these guys in 20 years.
I’m surprised they are still around.
I’ll show myself out.
why couldn’t it be titled black boys cant talk? it would make so much more sense since they are referring to boys and not girls.
Wow good thing you came to the defense of the white man. What an under served, under represented, and neglected population that NEVER gets their voices and opinions heard.
Good thing they have a white woman like you to play “white night” for them! What would they do without you.
Can you read? I don’t think you can read. No wonder you’re so bitter.
Oh, I can. I just didn’t bother. The headline was enough for me. Ive read enough of your “work” to get the gist.
Your lack of self awareness is truly astounding by the way. It does make your writing mildly amusing though, I’ll give you that, I’m entertained. You’re failure to recognize the hypocritical thinking and actions layered in each line you write, brings a great deal of humor to reader.
Anyone with half a brain can see the overlap btw what you accuse others of and what TBS’s mere existence is all about; (in your own words [sorta]) “echo chamber of constant outrage” using “contradictory pseudo-sociology pepper by meaningless terms dressed up as serious fact“, “perpetually miserable shrews expending boundless energy in making other [people] as brutally unhappy as they are.”, “ obsessed with picking at the scab of [society], trying to draw fresh blood, and are often seen lumbering around, finding [issue] at every turn.”, “causes have no credibility, no clear motivation, and no semblance of logic.”
Massgirl, I think I love you.
Oh, dear, MassGirl poked and Bristol poked back, and MG tries a long retort. I don’t know what your problem is, maybe you see yourself in too many blog subjects. Here’s a suggestion: find yourself a That Ain’t Right story, and submit it to TBS (or try to get it published elsewhere), and perhaps we’d take you seriously.
Ok B I gave you the solid of actually reading it. And I’ve gotta say I’m left even more amazed and entertained by your lack of self awareness then I was before I read it.
MassGirl must have another ingrown hair on her fat, greasy inner thigh. Ride it out fatso it’ll pop on it’s own.
Still butthurt about that deformation gaffe you made, huh? Don’t worry – you’re still anonymous here. It’s the people that actually know you that you should be worried what they really think of you. Not that you have a scintilla of self-awareness or desire to know what you really are.
Oh B, I had a little fun and played your game … playing with some little edits in your writing like you did to this girl here…swapping feminism for TBS…showing the double standard, as you have done, beautifully.
But it keeps getting deleted in the comment section. Weird don’t you think?
I mean I thought this blog was all pro uncensored free speech? I thought TB had a whole beef with how FB does this on their platform … weird TB would act just like FB … censoring people’s voices and all. Kind of hypocritical!
You two do a great job illustrating this whole double standard thing…keep at it, you’re almost at the 6ft line.
KC Narcissist strikes again. Get some professional help.
The fact that you state ” in defense of the white man” in your first sentence shows that the point of the blog post was well beyond your mental capacity. I feel sorry for you.
White men created the western civilization you comfortably live in.
The follow-up opinion piece by Abigail Prang was a hoot too. Go to the homepage of that newspaper and scroll down to opinions. Some of the finest virtue signaling I’ve seen.
So there I was, justa walk-in down the street with my boy Jussie smellit. Also Adam Jones was with us and this was witnessed by Niko Poopycockass and Kevin Cullen. So someone rolls a grand piano off a ledge from 24 stories up and tried to hit Adam, Jussie Smellit, and I. This really happened! Police are reviewing surveillance. I think it might’ve been mark fuhrman.
Thou makest my point, such prose has not been spied in a fortnight
Glad to see the ppl commenting also share the same disdain for this garbage. It’s beyond hypocritical, and if any white person published that piece, they’d be expelled, fired, etc.
Bristol, you are an intelligent, fierce, strong willed woman. I think I’m in love! Keep on doing what you do girl
That’s definitely the pinnacle of racism. Let’s silence an entire gender and race because they may have views that differ from our own. Obama, BLM and Warren are breeding a racist culture in this country that is truly scary. Reminds me of the Nazis in their infancy.
Whitessplaining at its finest. Someone should give you a round of applause.
Metro should give you a final ass fucking before he divorces your crazy ass.
That’s obviously what you’re here for. You really need to get this projecting thing under control before people realize you’re mentally ill. Lol
Everyone already knows she’s bat-shit crazy.
She will be Lizzie Borden crazy as soon as Metro serves her the divorce papers or when she runs out of meds…
Buzzword huh? That’s an interesting choice of a slam on a site 100% based on click-bate from the buzzwords used in their headlines. Just sayin’
The complete lack of introspection, and the constant hypocritical thought displayed by turd writers and readers provides deliciously humorous entertainment on my end though. So thanks.
P.s. pass the popcorn
I think it’s “click-bait” but at least now we all know your head lives in the gutter.
Go back to reddit so you can “bate” and wallow in misery with your fellow L7 weenies.
Really, what do you hope to accomplish here? You aren’t defending your honor, you’re just making yourself look like a totally unhinged lunatic.
Dickinson College…that’s where my fiancee Fawn Liebowitz went. She died in a kiln accident.
Don’t tell the chocolatey racist Leda that Dickinson’s most famous alumni include Roger Taney, one of the worst USSC in US history, and James Buchanan, one of the worst Presidents in US history.
Great choice in secondary education, Leda.
For all the white idiots cheering on their pets of color, just wait till you’re out in the real world for a few years. Wait until you’re sista is promoted over you even though she can barely function at a fourth grade level and you have to answer to her, you have to deal with the thinly veiled hatred and the glaring incompetence of an affirmative action hire. Then you’ll see. It won’t matter that you’re one of the good ones, it won’t matter that you’re also down with the struggle, they will gleefully eat you alive.
I can never tell, honestly, if comments like these that pop up are contrived to further an agenda against what we do here, or genuine. Either way, you’re fucking stupid. Keep shining, sunshine. There is nothing racist about this blog, or this site, and as much as I reject the generalization of white people, I reject the generalization of black people as well. Try it out sometime. Or don’t.
But you’re cool with generalizing all feminists as one type? Ok, cool line.
Totally nothing hypocritical about your writing. Look a bird.
You really need to get some help with this obsession you’re building with me. Might I suggest some gainful employment? Now THAT’S some humor, hahaha! In all seriousness, though. Get help. The jealousy is palatable.
Fishing for a red herring B, or just recycling the same slams as your undereducated audience?
Btw how’s your job like you spending it your day in the comments section on TBS? Must be a demanding business your in … you sure seem to have a lot of free time at that paid day job.
And PS I AM OBSESSED with you! Your lack of insight makes for the best comedy writing I’ve come across in years!!! Truly!!! Maybe your fan club is right, it should be award winning. It’s comic gold!!!
Great stuff. Not sure if you’ve seen the (much better) Op-Ed from the Alabama newspaper: “Time for the Ku Klux Klan to night ride again.” It talks about republicans mass lynching SJWs like this. Really, really good stuff.
It certainly would be more interesting than your usual blogs.
Thank you, for being you, Randall.
Anytime hun.
What are you wearing?
My finest sweatpants/belt combo. Stained white tee, I skipped the MAGA hat because as I’ve stated redundantly, not a fan…but if that helps complete your fantasy of me, I’ll pick one up post haste.
Talk faster please.
And I would have said “stated repeatedly” in that sentence.
Less awkward.
Yo white boys just shut the F-up and give up your white privilege but keep loading my ebt, card, snap, scholarships, affirmative action hiring, “diversity placement” and supporting hoaxes like Jussie Smallet in the media.
Since you posted this just shy of 5pm, are you saying you wear sweatpants and stained clothes to your day job?
Just looking for clarity.
Just feeling confused … do you have this demanding male dominated industry day job or do you just sit home in your sweatpants and stained clothes alone writing in the comments section?
Just curious? Don’t want to make any assumptions.
I’m sorry, I should be more clear with my sarcasm in text, Bill. You and I are going to have some fun indeed. Good luck.