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Yesterday we asked turtle riders to send us ideas for a t-shirt or a coffee tumbler that says, “Fuck you Facebook, fuck you Twitter” without actually writing those words. And a turtle rider sent us this:
And we obviously love it.
Here’s my question turtle riders:
- Do you know anyone who would like to print t-shirts or other crap for us? If so, please have them email turtleboysports@gmail.com. We’d like to get prices.
- Does anyone know if it’s a copyright violation to print shirts like this because of the Facebook and Twitter logos? I don’t really feel like getting Uncle Turtleboy sued again. Barstool Sports posts shit like this all the time that I can’t imagine they have permission to:
So yea, we’d love to hear your thoughts turtle riders. We’re obviously gonna do t-shirts, but what else should we do? As mentioned above I like the idea of coffee tumblers. Also gonna do bumper stickers. Let’s hear some more ideas.
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Unless you significantly changed their logos, it’s likely you’ll be hit with lawsuits that will bankrupt you. Even if you changed their logo, if people recognize and connect it to be their brand, you’re likely to get hit with lawsuits and even if the lawsuits don’t have merit in the end and get dropped, you would end up being broke and wasting so much time trying to fight it that you would destroy TBS at the same time. I hate them too but losing everything you’ve worked for isn’t worth it and they’ll still win in the end.
I teach copyright law for art and design students. The answer is not clear cut- it depends on what types of copyright the logos are filed under. For instance, there are Creative Commons licenses that allow for people to use other logos or artwork created.
Here is where it gets tricky with the pissing images everyone talks about. IF you are doing a piece that is satirical – and using a trademarked/copyrighted image, you must alter the image enough so that it is not a replicate of the original. That could be changing the “f” for Facebook to a different font. Or add a wing to the bird for the Twitter logo.
Check out Chillybears out of Needham- they are not cheap, but can ensure that the designs are legal and make good quality stuff.
Yes please make those t shirts so i know exactly who I can throw a battering ram right hand through their retarded fucking face. You’d have to be a fucking loser to even think about wearing one of those shirts. OH YEAH If i see a car with one of those bumper stickers you bet I’m keying that motherfucker bumper to bumper. I might even write my name on it. You stupid worcester fucks make it too easy. I’d put my address on your fucking front drivers side door and none of you pussys would do shit except call the cops. You make me sick.KEEP ASKING FOR DONATIONS A!D@N you pussy you
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I would think, based upon my understanding of “fair use” you would be all set.
source: Digital Media Law Project
An important question for bloggers, citizen media creators, and other online publishers is whether trademark law limits their ability to engage in reporting, commentary, criticism, and other forms of political, social, and artistic expression. There is a threat, should trademark law become too robust, that companies and other trademark holders might use it to silence commentary, criticism, and unfavorable reporting. Such a “right to control language” would offend the First Amendment and seriously undermine the quality of public debate on issues of fundamental importance. The good news is that courts have consistently protected the public’s right to use the trademarks of others in order to engage in criticism, commentary, news reporting and other forms of noncommercial expression. As long as what you’re doing is really commentary, criticism, or reporting (etc.), and not a surreptitious attempt to sell goods or services, or to deceptively attract customers or readers you otherwise would not have had, you should be able to defeat a trademark claim brought against you. The bad news is that the law relating to this intersection of trademark law and free expression is complex and confusing. Neither Congress nor the courts have developed a simple and clear rule that protects your rights to use the trademarks of others for free speech purposes; instead they’ve developed a complex array of defenses to trademark claims that even lawyers find difficult to untangle. This makes it hard for a defendant to get a trademark lawsuit dismissed quickly with little expense, and it leaves bloggers and citizen media creators vulnerable to intimidation through the unscrupulous use of cease-and-desist letters. (The ideas here are based on William McGeveran’s excellent article, Four Free Speech Goals for Trademark Law.)
If TBS makes this sticker, keep it kinda small so I can put it on my bum ombré 🙂
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I believe the FB and Twitter logos are trademarked. Probably can’t use them. You can probably use something like little computer screens with Facebook and Twitter words. IANAL.
can’t we all just get along? i have some soy lates signed buy mr. schulz himself! as a rep i just wast to make sure all of our customers are going to be the biggest homeless bathroom worldwide! and a homeless shelter when it get’s cold. enjoy your $5 coffee.
I would buy a t-shirt with Maude naked scissoring with Leigha.
Oops – what was the question again?
I’d buy a bumper sticker . Not so much a tshirt.
I’d buy a bumper or window sticker . Not so much a tshirt.
Does anybody actually buy your hoodies and stuff? You’re not exactly the NE Patriots.
I like your blog but I’d feel like a douche wearing this shit.
Go home, dickbag.
This is twofold, extra revenue and another form of advertising.
The heavy digs it baby!
It sure reads like an editorial comparison to me..
Don’t forget to add: TurtleboySports.com below the image for those who may not know you guys, yet!
This cat Mike is right on with that one daddy-o!
That is a great shirt/sticker, but I would maybe drop the shirt/add the turtle shell…
Fuck twittbook
Sucka-berg is a twitt
Copywrite these or some derivative so you can’t get sued.
If someone who is not Turtleboy like cafepress I don’t think TBS will get in trouble cafepress will just remove it. So you could probably move a decent amount of that sticker (because it is awesome) before it gets shutdown. I’m not a lawyer but I think if you use a 3rd party you won’t a DMCA takedown.
the answer is “yes”, it would be considered political satire and thus under the realm of fair use. Attorney Richard N Vulva said so hisself.
just as you see emblems of a kid peeing on a chevy or ford logo.
I’m certain chevy and ford do not license those 🙂
Not only do they not license the kid peeing neither does Bill Watterson who created Calvin and Hobbes!! All those Calvin stickers peeing on Ford and whatever else are doing so without permission. Bill Watterson never gave the rights out and that didn’t stop them. Just another example showing that Turtle Boy should make this happen!!!!!
How’s your brother, Tony, doing?
That’s what you felt the need to respond with? How are your cousins a, e, i, o, and u doing?
Love it.