Facebook Admits To ProPublica That They Made “Mistakes” On 50% Of Reported Posts, Contact These Reporters To Let Them Know What Facebook’s Done To Turtleboy

Facebook Admits To ProPublica That They Made “Mistakes” On 50% Of Reported Posts, Contact These Reporters To Let Them Know What Facebook’s Done To Turtleboy

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Check out this article from ProPublica:

We asked Facebook about its handling of 49 posts that might be deemed offensive. The company acknowledged that its content reviewers had made the wrong call on 22 of them.

Basically what ProPublica did was try to paint the picture that Facebook allows hate speech to stay up, which is really only half the story. For instance….

Facebook’s community standards prohibit violent threats against people based on their religious practices. So when ProPublica reader Holly West saw this graphic Facebook post declaring that “the only good Muslim is a fucking dead one,” she flagged it as hate speech using the social network’s reporting system.

Facebook declared the photo to be acceptable. The company sent West an automated message stating: “We looked over the photo, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific Community Standards, we understand that it may still be offensive to you and others.”

Both posts were violations of Facebook’s policies against hate speech. But only one of them was caught by Facebook’s army of 7,500 censors — known as content reviewers — who decide whether to allow or remove posts flagged by its 2 billion users. After being contacted by ProPublica, Facebook also took down the one West complained about.

Facebook does indeed let a lot of hate speech go. Didi Delgado posted the other day that we should murder white people and give their money out to black people. Many of you reported that post, but received a message back from Facebook telling you that it didn’t violate their standards. It’s not that a person at Facebook is allowing this to happen. It’s that real people don’t actually review these things.

This was the most important part of that: After being contacted by ProPublica, Facebook also took down the one West complained about.

Facebook only fixes the issue when they get negative press about it. This happens to millions of users, and unless you write for a major media outlet like ProPublica, they won’t find out about it, and you get fucked.

What ProPublica did was ask readers to submit things they reported to Facebook to figure out what Facebook’s censorship policies were all about. But what they failed to realize was the most important part about the whole story – they have no policies, because no one works at Facebook. If they had policies then things like this wouldn’t be removed, and our pages wouldn’t be shut down:

We asked Facebook to explain its decisions on a sample of 49 items, sent in by people who maintained that content reviewers had erred, mostly by leaving hate speech up, or in a few instances by deleting legitimate expression. In 22 cases, Facebook said its reviewers had made a mistake. In 19, it defended the rulings. In six cases, Facebook said the content did violate its rules but its reviewers had not actually judged it one way or the other because users had not flagged it correctly, or the author had deleted it. In the other two cases, it said it didn’t have enough information to respond.

Yup, according to Facebook almost HALF of the 49 reported posts that were given to them, were taken down or kept up because of a “mistake.” This is what they do. This is how they lie. When 50% of your “human beings” make a “mistake,” it proves that human beings are not reviewing the posts. Computers are.

But the angle ProPublica chose to go after was the “Facebook is allowing hate speech” angle. This is why I wanted to avoid turning this into a left-right thing. Because it distracts from the most important issue that everyone is ignoring – no one works at Facebook. No one reviews your reported posts. It’s all luck. Unless you can get a major media outlet to expose them:

In several instances, Facebook ignored repeated requests by users to delete hateful content that violated its guidelines. At least a dozen people, as well as the Anti-Defamation League in 2012, lodged protests with Facebook to no avail about a page called Jewish Ritual Murder. However, after ProPublica asked Facebook about the page, it was taken down.

All they have to do is press a button. They just won’t do it unless they get pie on their face.

Here’s the biggest lie:

Without an appeals process, some Facebook users have banded together to flag the same offensive posts repeatedly, in the hope that a higher volume of reports will finally reach a sympathetic moderator. Annie Ramsey, a feminist activist, founded a group called “Double Standards” to mobilize members against disturbing speech about women. Members post egregious examples to the private group, such as this image of a woman in a shopping cart, as if she were merchandise.

Facebook said it takes steps to prevent mass reporting, a tactic used not only by “Double Standards” but by other advocacy groups, from influencing decisions. It uses automation to recognize duplicate reports, and caps the number of times it reviews a single post, according to a Facebook official.

BULL-SHIT. Just a bold faced lie. If mass reporting didn’t work than these Nazis wouldn’t be holding up the messages they got from Facebook, telling them that mass reporting was effective, like they were trophy animals:


It’s slowly starting to come out. Media outlets like ProPublica respond when they get a lot of messages from people. So if you have a minute, respectfully contact the two women who wrote this article, and let them know about what is happening to our page. Whatever you do, don’t turn it into a “Facebook is run by libtards trying to censor muh First Amendment” bullshit. That’s a great way for them to ignore you. Tell them the truth – Turtleboy is a media outlet that’s being censored because online mobs are mass reporting pictures of Christmas Trees. This is how we fight back. We use other media outlets to expose them until we get our page back. Tired of reading our blogs about this? Fix it by contacting these people. Then we can get our page back and get back to business as usual.

Ariana Tobin: Twitter, Email: ariana.tobin@propublica.org

Julia Angwin: TwitterEmail: Julia.Angwin@propublica.org

23 Comment(s)
  • juror seven esq.
    December 30, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    How do I get hired on as a “content reviewer”? Can I work from home? I’d be great at this. I’m not easily offended. I’d really like a job. Only stipulation is I don’t want to relocate to some third world shit hole.

  • Kevin Lynch
    December 30, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    All Turtleboy does is harass, stalk and threaten. You break EVERY Facebook rule. You have dozens of FAKE FACEBOOK accounts. You have duplicate Turtleboy sites.

    You have destroyed the enviroment of FACEBOOK. You posted pictures of my sweet mother in her apron sitting in her wheel chair enjoying Christmas dinner with her family and then you began to poke fun of her. You are a worthless POS.

    Just a couple weeks ago you posted a picture of a father holding his newborn baby. Why you dont understand that what you do is plain wrong is beyond me. You have printed dozens of LIES about me.

    You even have 4 fake sites where you use my name. You have employed a pedophile named Bret Killoran. You tell your followers to mass report peoples facebook sites. I cant enjoy facebook for 30 days as you had my site suspended. That is my family page. I haven’t been able to interact with others due to your harassment.

    You are nothing but a trouble making POS. I work with the homeless, drug addicted,individuals struggling with mental illness and you attack them brutally. You are the DEVIL in my eyes. You attack societies most vulnerable, you are a sick man.

    I will forever address you and your blog. And YES, I will bring civil action. You are a slug of a man.

    • just... don’t bother
      December 30, 2017 at 1:42 pm

      you’re a sub-par man and more than that, a bad writer

      don’t bother with anymore of your pearl-clutching online hyperbole

      get out of the dungeon and into real sunshine

    • Finn
      December 31, 2017 at 10:23 pm

      Oh Kevin,

      Need a tissue? I think you’re just upset because you still live with mommy. I get it (not really though – I moved out when I was 17 and never spent a day in jail), I saw your whole campaign against prisons. You didn’t like getting punished for killing a man. “It’s not fair, maw!”.

      “You are nothing but a trouble making POS. I work with the homeless, drug addicted,individuals struggling with mental illness and you attack them brutally. You are the DEVIL in my eyes. You attack societies most vulnerable, you are a sick man.”

      You’re a piece of shit. You murdered someone. You took someone’s life — never try to fluff over that. You don’t work with the homeless, drug addicted, mentally ill. You exploit them – you’re a failure as a human being and try to make yourself feel better by doing small things for people at their lowest. However, it’s not without a price – you exploit the shit out of them. If you wanted to really help – you would have done it and shut the fuck up about it.

      Instead, you go all over FB and tell the local police and fire fighters they’re not doing their jobs. LMAO!!! Walk a day in their life!!! I certainly couldn’t. I’d be devastated over what they see on a daily basis. You fucking nuisance. You don’t have the brass to do what these men and women do and see. Go back under mommy’s skirt.

      Get Fucked,

  • Between Meals Snacking in Nagasaki
    December 29, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    Wow. Keep it up. This crap is all gonna come around in your favor, TB.

    • japan ftw
      December 29, 2017 at 11:09 pm

      enjoy your adventures!

  • pro trump
    December 29, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    “the only good Muslim is a fucking dead one”

    lol so true

    • stfu
      December 29, 2017 at 10:56 pm

      okay so you two are the same person after all? nazi twins?

  • DJ Trump
    December 29, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    Oh enough already.
    Fuck my life.
    This blog half sucks anyways, it’s just social media trolls reporting on the daily life of Massachusetts welfare state trash.
    Get a fucking life outside of your mothers basement so you don’t end up like the losers you enjoy mocking.

  • John Barker
    December 29, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    My email to Ariana……
    Good Evening Ariana,
    Hope this message finds You well. Having read the article “Facebook’s uneven enforcement of hate speech rules allows vile post to stay up” which You have contributed to, I would like to bring to Your attention (IMO) how mass reporting on Facebook is a terrible idea.
    I follow a blog, Turtleboy Sports. This blog, while not posting snippets of kittens and puppies, covers local news that the MSM either will not post or reluctantly posts after the “cats out of the bag” so to say. This blog has broken quite a few stories that may have eluded the public. Most recent a judges daughter have a police report wipes all the way back to 2012 when a mob of parents disrupted a school bus driver dropping off children.
    This blog, having over 117,000 “followers” was shut down by mass reporting. The posts that got this blog shut down were a family sitting down to Thanksgiving dinner, a Christmas tree and a post wishing peace and love among others of the same ilk. This is what mass reporting does on Facebook. It seems no one is looking at these posts and because of the amount of reporting, FB automatically shuts them down. If enough of the posts from a site get reported, then FB closes the page.
    Why am I writing You? Well, I’d like to see a second part of this story. I have no connection to Turtleboy Sports, but, I feel it is a travesty that a business, that these reporters support their families from, can be shut down by random groups of people who disagree with their message.
    Thank You for Your time Ariana, Have a wonderful New Year..
    John B*****

    • Kevin Lynch
      December 30, 2017 at 12:38 pm

      And then the rest of us emailed her and told her the facts. Turtleboy post video of underage children snorting cocaine, they post video of nudity ALL THE TIME. They found away around being caught by Facebook by embedding their threads.

      TBS has stalked, harassed and threatened many people. They are the worst people on planet earth. Turtleriders are either washed up bullies from their teenage years who worked menial jobs and cheated and stole but now they claim to be holier than thou. Or they are those who got bullied and are now state troopers who chastise everyone who doesnt earn a smooth easy $80,000 with full benefits.

      TBS has posted LIE after LIE. They repost stories from the AP sites is all. They got two stories from Auburn police because Matt Purviers brother is the chief there and he gives TBS stories.

      TBS divides society. You are a follower, a bandwagon tough guy who enjoys bullying others. tbs attacks the homeless, attacks the drug addicted and the mentally ill. WOW that is heroic. NO THAT IS A DEFINITION OF A PURE POS who makes money exploiting the vulnerable.

      • stop, kevin
        December 30, 2017 at 4:47 pm

        you’re a sub-par man and more than that, a bad writer

        don’t bother with anymore of your pearl-clutching online hyperbole

        get out of the dungeon and into real sunshine

        • citypoint
          December 30, 2017 at 5:19 pm

          That can’t be the pole smoking,murderer Kevin Lynch.
          Most of the words are spelled right.

        • Finn
          December 31, 2017 at 10:10 pm


          Kevin Lynch,

          I hate repeating myself, but this needs repeating – to you. [sighs]

          Kevin, please replace your dad’s dick (or mom’s tit) with a shotgun and pull.


  • John Cena
    December 29, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    So DON’T contact them and mention ‘libtards’ and ‘first amendment’? Got it loud and clear.

    • great job, tbs!
      December 29, 2017 at 6:52 pm

      basically just don’t sound like a right wing bot i.e. take Mirror Mirror’s posts in the comment section on this blog and avoid sounding like that at all costs

      • True Reality Speaks
        Mirror Mirror
        December 29, 2017 at 7:40 pm

        It’s not right wing if it’s the truth, Mary! Struck a nerve, huh?

        Serious question – If you can’t stalk me, what does a sociopath lemming do?

        • ha
          December 29, 2017 at 8:10 pm

          that sounds like a program called Trap Replier.

          nice work my beloved right wing bot

          you get an upgrade next Christmas

          • eh??
            December 29, 2017 at 8:24 pm

            who tf is Mary btw

  • Finn
    December 29, 2017 at 4:32 pm


    Well done.

  • Anti-Antifa
    December 29, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    It’s about time. Moonbats will soon have their come-uppance.

  • Paul Casale
    December 29, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    I’m glad you referenced this article. I was going to send it to you…so you saved me from doing so. You always claim that no one works at Facebook or monitors postings. Care to comment on this? “We’re sorry for the mistakes we have made — they do not reflect the community we want to help build,” Facebook Vice President Justin Osofsky said in a statement. “We must do better.” He said Facebook will double the size of its safety and security team, which includes content reviewers and other employees, to 20,000 people in 2018, in an effort to enforce its rules better.

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