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So the cop from the South Carolina high school video was fired today. The teacher, principal, and students in the class all said they had no problem with the way it was handled. But we’re living in a world where naniburgers find it easier to give into the PC police than do what’s right.
I will make this one critique about the way the situation was handled – the classroom should’ve been temporarily evacuated by students and staff after it was clear the girl would not stand up. The girl was on stage and clearly wanted to put on a show. They should’ve taken that away from her. It also would’ve guaranteed that the incident would not be taped. That’s on the school for not having a better procedure for incidents like that.
Let’s watch it again from two different angles:
It seems like people are saying that the cop didn’t have to be THAT rough with her. Maybe so. I have no idea what police protocol is because I’m not a cop nor am I an expert, unlike 99% of the people commenting on the Internet. If he didn’t follow protocol then he should be punished accordingly.
But if this was how cops are taught to apprehend someone who is resisting arrest, then there’s nothing wrong with it, no matter how shocking it was. Look, this is what cops deal with on a daily basis. Not everyone who gets arrested complies, and when they don’t comply, ugly things happen. Don’t want ugly things to happen? Then comply.
It’s the shock value that’s really set reasonable people off. And LOTS of reasonable people have an issue with the way this was handled. Because the video is definitely shocking. But like I said, it’s the job. If I went and watched a doctor perform a C-Section I would imagine I’d have a similar reaction. Because sometimes people have jobs that require them to do things that aren’t pretty.
But here’s a question I have yet to receive a REAL answer to – how was he supposed to get the girl out of there? Here’s some responses I’ve seen:
Hold class, dismiss class, sit down w/student, explain consequences, *call parents*, work as a team.
OK. And what happens when that doesn’t work? How long do we give her to do the right thing? This is not an answer. It’s an imaginary world where a bratty kid suddenly sees the light. People who think this would work aren’t living in reality.
And here’s the bigger problem with this “answer” – the world has to revolve around assholes. Don’t wanna listen to the teacher? Don’t wanna listen to the principal? Don’t wanna listen to the cops? That’s OK, we’ll work around your insubordination and come up with an alternative plan. Do you honestly think this kid didn’t know what the consequences were? She’s a senior in high school. She’s 18. She knew and she didn’t give a shit. Because clearly rules don’t apply to her.
Meanwhile, what about everyone else? Fuck them right? They don’t have a right to learn because we have to worry bout the feelings of the only kid in class who isn’t following the rules.
Here’s another “solution”:
So leave her in the chair, teach class, have family in school ready to take her home. Her choice.
Oh, you mean let her have her way. Yea, that’ll show her. Because when your kid gets caught having a cookie before dinner, you just let them keep eating cookies. That’s the logic we’re dealing with here. Rules are optional. If you want to disrupt the class and disrespect the teacher, go for it. We’ll just call up your parent, who OBVIOUSLY will answer the phone and come RIGHT down to school, and they’ll take you home after that.
Then there was this one:
There are ways to talk to a child quietly to get them to cooperate. Someone should have the skill to negotiate.
No. Just no. I’m sorry, we don’t pay teachers and principals to be Goddamn negotiators. We pay them to teach. That’s it.
Some people have suggested that he just pick the desk up and bring it outside the classroom. First of all, that obviously wouldn’t work because to even gain any leverage he would’ve had to make physical contact with her. The second he initiated contact she started flailing her arms and legs. Obviously that wouldn’t work. On top of that the girl was being placed under arrest, so eventually she would’ve had to have been physically taken out of that chair.
There’s just no way possible that this incident could not have gotten physical. The girl had a choice to make – get up and go peacefully, or stand your ground and see what happens. She chose the latter. But make no mistake about it – it was her choice.
See the major overriding problem here is that all these people look at this situation and think of ways that the cop could’ve better handled it. Once again, we see a kid not following the rules, and our first reaction is supposed to be, “what would we do differently next time?” What we should be asking is, “what could the student do differently next time?”
Look, I realize this video was hard to look at, but the fact of the matter is she disrupted class and was given tons of chances to leave. She refused. This isn’t some minor problem. This happens all over America and we’re letting it happen. Your kids are having their education stolen from them by other kids who don’t think rules apply to them. She needed to be removed and that took force. When the cop goes to pick her up she puts her arm around him and kicks her leg up:
Anyone with a simple understanding of physics could tell you that this would cause the desk to flip backwards.
Then he had to get the girl out of the desk and arrest her. He wasn’t gentle when he did so, but it’s not the job of the police to be gentle.
Some people have asked, “Hey Turtleboy, what if this were your kid.” My answer to that is simple – I’d be humiliated and embarrassed that I raised such a pukey asswipe of a kid. It would mean that I completely failed as a parent because I didn’t get the message across to my 18 year old kid that it’s not OK to disobey teachers, principals, and cops. And make no doubt about it, if this had happened to me as a student, my parents would’ve sided with the cop. I would’ve been driven down to the police station and forced to apologize to everyone for being a sniveling little asshole. And they would’ve been right to do so.
So the bottom line is, until you can come up with a scenario that involves getting this girl out of class without using physical force, then you don’t really offer any solutions.
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