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Reader Email: Facebook Should Act More Like UPS And AT&T Instead Of Trying To Be The Police

Reader Email: Facebook Should Act More Like UPS And AT&T Instead Of Trying To Be The Police

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Every once in a while we get an email that’s too good not to share. Here’s one that articulated everything that is wrong with Facebook in one email better than we have in a billion and a half blogs we’ve written about it….


I understand that you’re dealing with a lot right now, and I’m also cognizant of the fact that everyone and his brother has been giving you advice on what to do to solve your problem. I’m not going to try to give you advice. I think the breach of contract angle is your best bet, and being part of a class action lawsuit is even better if you can get co-complainants. 

I wanted to make some general observations about social media that are probably painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain, but they reveal a recurring theme that might be missed in the fog of war. 

In the telecommunications industry, carriers like AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, and so forth are what as known as common carriers. They provide end to end service for users that is essentially blind or agnostic to content. Nobody ever tries to sue a Telco carrier because of the content that flows over their networks. These common carriers make no attempt to censor, control, or otherwise regulate the content that goes through their networks. They probably couldn’t even do it if they tried, but the point is that it’s great for them to be absolved of having to regulate content. Similarly, carriers like USPS, UPS, and FedEx also don’t know what in the packages they’re shipping, nor do they want to know.

Now, this doesn’t mean that anyone can break the law. UPS and FedEx will have guidelines that state you’re not supposed to ship firearms, ammunition, weed, or any other contraband, but it’s not up to them to enforce those laws. It’s ultimately up to state, local, and Federal law enforcement. If something illegal does get shipped, it’s not the carrier’s responsibility. Similarly, if someone uses Verizon’s network to transmit child pornography or sell opiates, that’s up to law enforcement to investigate and prosecute. Sure, the carrier will have to cooperate and turn over logs and records to help law enforcement identify law breakers, but the extent of their liability ends there.

So what has this got to do with you and your ongoing battle with the evil empire otherwise known as Facebook?  Well, I’ve been thinking about this; a lot. The problem, as I see it, is that Facebook is not acting like a common carrier. Ideally, Facebook should be like any other common carrier: it should provide a platform and a service for individuals and businesses to use for whatever they want. You even admitted that you you’d be willing to pay for using it if they would just leave you alone. The problem with Facebook along with many other social media platforms is that they are trying to regulate the content of billions of users.  It’s like a parent who has a billion kids and who thinks they can keep them from fighting and hurting each other. They can’t. 

So Facebook thinks they can solve the problems of SPAM, cyber bullying, hate speech, racism, misogyny, homophobia, discordant political views, and anything else that  might offend someone by using contract workers and automation to smother the millions of brush fires that flare up on it’s platform every day.  As you’ve experienced first hand, this results in groups, individuals, and businesses being unfairly punished. Facebook has embarked on a fool’s errand. There’s always someone who will be offended by something, and there’s no way to make everyone happy.  What Facebook should do is act like a common carrier and not censor anything. If laws are broken, they should work with law enforcement and let the justice system sort it out. But of course, Zuckerberg and his army of technocrats think that they can do this right. They can’t, and that’s why they will ultimately lose in court. 

Facebook isn’t alone in this. Craigslist has a section called “Rants and Raves”.  it uses a user-based flagging system to remove posts that the community doesn’t like. One could post a perfectly rational, defensible, civilized opinion and have it flagged off immediately because of the political views it supports. Another social media app that you may have heard of, called “Yik Yak” no longer exists because of pressure it received over cyber bullying. They even enabled virtual geo fences so that the app would not work near elementary, middle, and high schools in an attempt to placate its detractors.  My daughters used it in college and loved it because people could say what they wanted anonymously without fear of censorship. Yik Yak no longer exists.

In summary, you’re doing all the right things. Keep doing what you are doing and don’t give up. Keep encouraging people to visit the web site. I only read TBS from the web site, and I never use Facebook because i hate it so much. If anyone ever came up with a Facebook-like social media application that acted like a common carrier and that was content blind,  they’d make a fortune. 

This turtle rider just articulated the problem better than we have in the billion and a half blogs we’ve written about Facebook. All social media platforms should be nothing more than mediums that people use to share ideas, pictures, videos, and opinions. Facebook should not be blamed if Russians use it as a medium to influence our election. Facebook should not be blamed if people use it to share images of terrible and illegal things. Facebook should not be blamed if users use “hate speech,” bully, or share pornography. There’s porn all over Twitter and they survive. This is why we have police. Facebook should stick to what they’re best at – enhancing their user friendly site that is the greatest communication tool the world has ever seen. They should stay out of policing, because they’re not good at it.

Just think of how impossible their goal is. They have almost 2 billion users, who make hundreds of millions of posts and comments every single day. How the hell could you possibly think that a website with that many users could EVER be properly monitored? How delusional do you have to be to think Facebook could EVER be anyone’s safe space?

The analogy with having a billion kids was spot on. I have two. They’re always whining that the other one is doing something wrong. I have a hard enough time putting out those fires, and I deal with it because they’re children. So why is Facebook treating its adult users like children? There should be a simple policy – if you see something you don’t like and you don’t wanna see anything like that again, then just block the user. Boom. Problem solved.

Instead Facebook feeds into this bullshit victimization society where they feel that their role is to make sure none of their 2 billion users ever have their feelings hurt. Ever. A noble pursuit indeed. But the problem is they haven’t invested in actual human beings with common sense and brains who can monitor things that people find offensive. And as a result their once great platform has been taken over by whiny little shits like Didi Delgado and Kevin Lynch, who basically can take down any page they want, simply because they don’t agree with it.

Facebook can keep doing this is they want, but it will only work so long as they have no competitor. We’d go to another social media outlet with 2 billion users, if only it existed. All it takes is one group of wealthy investors who believe in free speech, and see Facebook’s chink in the armor, and Facebook’s reign of terror is over.


23 Comment(s)
  • Social Media Sites Have Bias and Remove Posts, breaking news!
    January 7, 2018 at 6:59 pm

    Stupid comparison, FB doesn’t just deliver it hosts these images and comments on their servers. FB is biased but you know that everyone knows that.

  • Sandra
    January 6, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    Re: social media Yah it’s called gab.nudnik

    • Sandra
      January 6, 2018 at 10:02 pm

      This is nothing more than virtue signaling. Take ur shit to gab. Other wise stfu.

  • hate
    January 6, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    Is it true that Fiesty was fired from TBS because she scared the fuck out of normal people and everyone was convinced that mentally wise her train had left the platform hours before schedule?

  • You know who
    January 6, 2018 at 6:19 pm

    Well ‘The Man’ you pretentious fool this is the reality of what transpired. Fiesty was a newcomer to TBS and not well liked so I stuck up for her. She viewed my protectionism as a sign of love and once she found out I had money she began stalking myself and my family. I asked her over and over again to let it go but she was so in love she was blind. I’m sorry she had to go away hurt and she will probably never get over me but please for the last time she has to move forward.

  • Burt Hurtensteiner
    January 6, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    “Your comment is awaiting moderation”

  • Fiesty Lawyer Lady
    January 6, 2018 at 3:18 pm

    You know something, a lot of people might be thinking “wow, Turtleboy started a Paypal instead of a GoFundMe in hopes that he doesn’t look like a money grubbing scumbag who thinks the people who read his blogs are total losers and idiots’.

    But I for one don’t believe that’s the case. In fact all the fake Turtle riders make me fucking sick!

    I’ve already donated everything I have in the bank and I might not be able to pay next months rent or utilities but I’m not worried because I believe Turtleboy and the true riders will help provide for me.

    Donate now to the Paypal account or you’re a loser!

    • 100%TurtleRiderFrFr
      January 6, 2018 at 3:38 pm

      I agree with you. Funny how all the “hardcore” riders have vanished. Fair weather riders.

      TBS’s original page had over 100K “likes.” Subsequent pages did not crack 15K. Shows you who the “real” fans are. Damn fair weather riders. Seems the other 85K+ were legacy “likes.” Do you think deceased people were liking the original page? Where did they all go? Fair weather riders

      I, unfortunately, do not any cash at the moment; I am living off the State. I do have food stamps, but do not know how to “donate” them via PayPal.

      Is TBS open to a hardcore Turtle rider establishing a GFM on its behalf?

      • ****
        January 7, 2018 at 1:19 am

        Pretty sure I’ve been with them the whole time, bitch

    • The man the myth the legend
      January 6, 2018 at 4:45 pm

      She stopped blogging, commenting, and reading 7 months ago but here you are. I know her personally and actually sent her a screenshot of this post and her only response was “Rent free space in an idiots brain which is probably filled with nothing but broken dreams and their EBT card balance to the penny.” I wish I could post pictures in the comments hahahaha!!!!! Since she refused to comment I figured I would. Oh and she also wished you “a slow and painful death by an ass fucking so hard the hiv infested dick reaches your lungs and punctures your heart and you bleed out in front of everyone you ever loved.” I read that out loud at work for the guys I think they are in love.

      • BobnMic
        January 6, 2018 at 5:12 pm

        Well my short peckered friend if she stopped paying attention if she totally cut ties why the response? I know why and she does to but she won’t admit it. She told me personally she wants it.

        • The man the myth the legend
          January 6, 2018 at 5:33 pm

          Woah random weirdo she responded to me and we had a laugh. I decided to reply. Who the fuck are you anyway lol

      • Asking 4 a friend
        January 6, 2018 at 6:33 pm

        Suuure you are just her friend lol. Give it up Fiesty, you’re pathetic

      • i do love me some badass alpha femmes!
        January 6, 2018 at 6:47 pm

        sounds like she is such a hot sexy badass!!! so sorry to have missed her time, can you ask and report why she is no longer a writer here!

    • You're dumb
      January 6, 2018 at 10:07 pm

      We’ll that was stupid of you. I would never risk not paying my rent or utilities so some pussy hiding behind a keyboard can keep writing his little blogs. What has he done for you?

      • hate
        January 7, 2018 at 4:42 pm

        You’re Dumber for not getting the sarcasm.

    • Stuart P
      January 7, 2018 at 9:17 am

      Fiesty and BobnMic? Wow, this troll went deep into the archives to pull those names. A+ for the effort, sir (or more likely one of Didi’s white male hating “femmes”). Danny Margolis, is that you? Did you write a script, too? Or did you just manually read years worth of blogs and comments. Must have taken a long time! But when you do nothing all day but complain on social media that the white “cisheteropatriachy” is keeping you down instead of working for your room and board, this is easy peasy, right?

  • Wwy
    January 6, 2018 at 3:00 pm

    Look at TB Jewish panhandling to fight a place occupied by kikes like Facebook,you’ll do what the kikes tell you to do

    • UneducatedFuckers
      January 7, 2018 at 3:28 am

      ANd comments like this are why this won’t happen. In order to have a big company, you need backers. No one is going to back a platform full of anti semites, racists and homophobes. No one is going to put their advertising dollars and have theN-word appear right below. They monitor their sites, because they don’t want to lose advertisers, VCs,etc. Nestle doesn’t want to advertise their Crunch Bar, next to someone calling a person a k*ke

      • Wwy
        January 7, 2018 at 3:50 pm

        It’s the Jew thing to do play that Jew card TB what’s good for kikes is good for Americans.

      • Facebook user
        January 7, 2018 at 4:25 pm

        Exactly…. It’s the same reason TBS says that they aren’t racist… And dare you to find racist comments…. TBS is careful with wording to stay right on the edge of being severely racist without definitive proof in most cases…. Now let’s say TBS was Facebook…. TBS already uses anonymous writers and trys hard to sharpen their views…. How is this different from Facebook allowing you to post on their “blog” being anonymous like tbs. But they have the right to control the content…. Would TBS allow a completely left wing article about how poor Americans deserve welfare? He’ll no…. Why wouldn’t they? Because they would loose the following and thus loose the advertising…. Same is true for FB. Sorry TBS but just because your not big enough on your own to NEED Facebook. Doesn’t mean you get to cry freedom of speech when posting on another company’s website…. Your lucky they allow you to post at all… This is why news companies are so careful with wording. The more people you offend the more heat you get and lawsuits and all that. Facebook knows this and doesn’t want to be associated with hate. You can’t blame them… It is Facebooks right as a company to service whoever they want… Or not service… If you hate am Facebook soo much… Why do you need to be on it? The answer is simple. You want to make money. So if that’s what u want…. Start a new blog that gets your views across without trashing and harassing people. Without inciting crowds of people to enforce your views…. You think that people all agree with you because they don’t go against you as much as other views on Facebook… But the reality is people are afraid to disagree with you online because you ATTACK anyone who does. The tactics you use are your own downfall. I have agreed with a lot of things this blog has said. But the way you go after people is wrong. And you want everyone to believe that you only go after people that have broken the law… But that is far from the truth. You try and bully the community into agreement in fear of retaliation. That isn’t how media works….. Sorry.. You want to be recognized as REAL NEWS… than you should state your side of the story and leave the comment section to the people. You control what views are expressed on your own blogs with threats of retaliation and this is much worse than Facebook simply wanting its own subscribers to enjoy their experience on the platform. Just like you say to readers…. If you don’t like our blog don’t read it…. Well TBS. IF YOU DON’T LIKE FACEBOOK… DON’T GET ON IT!

        • you crunched it it cannot be read
          January 7, 2018 at 4:33 pm


          ever heard of “white space”?

  • The Rant Queen
    January 6, 2018 at 2:36 pm

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