
Read part 1, and part 2, of the Jamie Genereux PetTrackers series before reading this blog, or else you’ll heave a tough time figuring out what’s going on. This guy is suing me and 10 other women, including 2 former customers of his and 8 volunteers for a missing dogs non-profit, for a blog Manch wrote in August in which Jamie played a minor role. I had no idea who he was until I found out he was suing me in April. And honestly, this guy isn’t worth the fight. There’s so many things I’d rather do with my day than beat this guy in court. Since I had no idea who he was prior to this, what do I care if the blogs he was featured in are still on the website? I figured if I reached out to him, explained where I was coming from, and offered to take down any references to him, we could reach a common ground and save both him and I time and money.
Unfortunately I underestimated just how wacked in the head this guy is. Here’s the entire conversation I had with him this morning:
I ruined his name? I didn’t write a blog about him, and he was mentioned in one or two sentences in a blog that wasn’t even about him. Many former customers have echoed the same complaints that Manch wrote about in the blog. How does that “ruin” your business? Are people not allowed to voice complaints about the service you provided to them?
He insisted I wrote it though, while also admitting that he was speaking with Manch the entire time.
He’s blaming me for harassing phone calls, even though we haven’t given out his phone number, and says I’m not being sympathetic enough towards him.
Again, if this man had contacted me about an issue with the blog I could’ve looked into it and issued a correction if necessary. He never did that. He also hasn’t provided any evidence that what was written was false.
Finally he explained his side of the story – Amelia the dog trainer who killed Knox threw the e-collar into the pond, which is why Jamie’s dogs went there.
So basically he’s saying that he was hired to find the dog, he tracked the e-collar to the pond, he didn’t think Knox was in there but he recommended to the chief that they hire a diving team to search the pond, they searched the pond, and then Chantel Mayo called him and yelled at him for what she perceived to be wasting their time and getting her hopes up. This of course doesn’t change the fact that other women he is suing are alleging that he told them their dogs were dead after they paid him money, and the dogs ended up being alive.
This begs the question, why isn’t he suing Chantel Mayo? She’s the one with the big platform who accused the dog tracking company of lying to her on Instagram.
*****Voice to text – was supposed to say, “I assure you that I have no desire to harm your business.”****
He also said he never wanted Manch to blog about his side of the story.
Which of course means that she could only get quotes from his critics then.
Then he started saying I was responsible for mean comments about him on the website.
It’s really simple at this point. He wants something from me and I want something from him. I’m willing to do something I wouldn’t normally do and get rid of a blog. He’s willing to do….nothing. But he still wants stuff from me and he’s convinced he’s going to get it.
For the record, CDA Section 230 provides websites like Turtleboy with immunity from defamation claims based on comments left by third parties in comment sections. If websites were responsible for comments left on their sites then no one would publish content on the Internet. It would be too much of a risk.
At this point I realize I’m not dealing with a smart person here, and he’s just going in circles over and over again.
Then he kicked it up a notch and said he was going after my “domain hosts” because posting pictures of him from his public Facebook page are against my “domain hosts” terms of service.
The best part is his unearned sense of self confidence and condescending belief that I’m the stupid one here.
He said he was “coming for it all,” and in a threatening manner told me I would “wish you never owned (opened) your mouth)”.
Every time I offered a way to make him happy he just found a new way to victimize himself.
Then he threatened to sue my “new website” and sue me “until you shut your face.”
Then he started complaining about a text message he sent to a client of a dead dog, who he claims he will now be suing as well.
So pretty much everyone’s getting sued at this point.
At this point he had completely lost it. In my opinion if his business is in fact struggling it’s probably due to the fact that he’s unprofessional, impulsive, and I’d have to be crazy to trust him with my money. That’s when he started whining more about comments.
He threatened me with more expensive, frivolous discovery if I did not delete comments that said mean things about him.
And here we are. As you can see, this guy isn’t planning on going away anytime soon. He’s got a lot of Gaffney in him. He made it clear in his threatening messages that he intends on using this lawsuit to completely silence us and bury us in expensive discovery. So we could really use any and all donations to help defend ourselves against this nut and preserve free speech. For those wishing to donate to our defense:
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I think we all just found out that there’s a good chance UT would do whatever it takes to not have to pay for more lawsuits, even if that means potentially outing his former employees and/or readers.
Whether what he was saying was a bluff remains to be seen, either way maybe we should all think twice about supporting someone like this. Trust people only until you learn that you can’t.
“So we could really use any and all donations to help defend ourselves against this nut and preserve free speech.”
After you show us that you were willing to sell out our readers/commenters and former employee? Yeah, go fuck yourself.
Go F**k yourself, Gamey JennyRocks.
And good luck paying your lawyer.
Whaa whaa whaa I’m Shamie Generouswithmywhining ’cause this Turtle Guy wrote something that mentioned me and I didn’t like it and I didn’t like someone rating me bad ’cause I told them their dog was dead but it really wasn’t and he hurt my FEELZ so I’m gonna sue everyone that makes me FEELZ bad… in my opinion.
PetTracker doesn’t respond to requests for help on his Facebook page. What’s his story?
I admittedly know little about the actual laws but I deal frequently with lawyers. Under very different circumstances I was working with one lawyer that had to reference the group’s client list to first confirm that none of the counterparties of the action at hand had ever been clients of that law group. I bring this up because if there is a lawyer somehow involved with this that ever acted in some capacity as lawyer for turtleboy might this be grounds for some kind of censure? Obviously a lawyer can sue their own client and vice versa but can someone competent to answer state weather or not a scorned ex-attorney is allowed to coach turtleboy’s adversaries?
This Jamie clown seems like a real piece of work! I wouldn’t hire him to find pigs I raise for food. His whole pitch just screams scammer to me.
I really hope UT wouldn’t name names.
Sent from IP: 92.856.9958.649
Anyone who wears that much camouflage and is that angry…. If he would just cum out of the closet he would be happy and gay and free and gaaaayyyyy…. fucking crack pot
I have a feeling we’ll be hearing more from Uncle Turtleboy on this matter – maybe tonight or tomorrow, if there’s a podcast.
In my opinion, he is innocent until proven guilty.
I do not believe TB would actually give up Manch or IP addresses. My opinion – he was bluffing. There was a plan behind this. He could not go on for years about free speech, etc, if he were not truly a believer.
There are several long term Turtleriders immediately assuming he would actually follow through on this. Do you really think he would publish this messenger dialog if he thought loyal followers would throw HIM under the bus without a further expiation?
Fair weather friends?
I hope that my family, friends and followers would not give up or damn me before hearing the whole story.
*explanation
Sup, you seem really smart.
Do you know the difference between anal sex and a pizza and if you don’t would you like to meet up for some pizza sometime?
You should get your believer fixed. That was not a bluff, that’s called saving your own ass at all costs no matter who else gets thrown under the bus. And they have no problem outing Manch, they figured out what she is all about (big ass ratchet ) that’s why she is no longer a blogger.
TL;DR
Am I being sued?
Whatever you decide to do, you should NOT (401) call Jamie and talk to him (787) to get his take on things (7432).
Where is everyone???? It’s like my Sunday sermons. No one there.
Hmmm.. my diagnosis: stupid, with a chance of retarded. I don’t know too much about VPN, but I know about about HPV, and there’s tons of it going on here.
Are donations to the TBS free speech foundation tax deductible?
I’m not sure I can trust you after this story.
You tell this guy how you were partying it up in fucking Bermuda when the story was released so you’re not responsible and then later you ask all of the readers to send you money to pay for all your court costs??
That’s a Didi Delgado dick move, how stupid do you think we are pal?
Speaking for myself, it’s worth the $20 to find out the true nature of this defender of the First Amendment.
Hint: When some asshole invokes the First Amendment / free speech, he means that it applies to only … himself.
Like the old saying. “Money is talking and b.s. is walking”. Some things never change!
To everyone in the comments section – the IP addresses we can see from you people don’t do shit anyway. It traces to a 20 mile radius. Plus, if you’re not using a VPN while shitposting on the Internet that’s just a rookie movie.
Gross. Isn’t it supposed to be free speech? Turtle chudd is gross now. Long live Leigha! You’re a fraud. Long live Manch too. Randall. Well…
Yeah, it’s everyone’s fault but yours.
BTW, I live in Malden, not Medford.
Uh oh……..what’s a VPN?? Fuck…… I thought you could just talk shit, threaten people and tell everyone to go fuck themselves because the interweb’s anonymous. Looks like all the regular commenters aren’t using one either.
“To everyone in the comments section – the IP addresses we can see from you people don’t do shit anyway. It traces to a 20 mile radius. Plus, if you’re not using a VPN while shitposting on the Internet that’s just a rookie movie.”
Sorry UTB, love ya like a brother, but you’re off base on this one.
a. IPs trace to whatever geographical location the provisioning server determines by the ISP. Could be 20 miles, could be 50 miles, could be 1 mile. All depends on subscriber density, number of subnets needed to service a geographical area, etc.
b. True, the IP doesn’t really tell you a thing… unless of course the person’s IP is logged publicly somewhere else and a search can reveal that. And of course this presumes the same IP is assigned to the person at the time their comment was posted here and whatever public search is used as a comparison. However,
c. It is really not relevant, once you have an IP, a judge will usually grant a subpoena to an ISP to release the subscriber’s name
d. Using a stateside VPN doesn’t protect you at all — it’s just one additional step the individual needs to do to get to your subscriber info (ISP->VPN->You)…. so if you are going to use a VPN, best to use an off-shore VPN in a country which refuses to honor US-based subpoenas.
Pertianing to item d: Not only avoid using a VPN within the USA, Don’t use one originating from one of the 14 Eyes nations or their surrogates. When using said VPN or proxies, run a DNS check to make sure it doesn’t leak back to Google, Cloudfare, Level 3, Open DNS or any of these firms that may be physically located in the jurisdiction of the 14 eyes.
Turtlechud is giving up our IP’s despite arguing free speech. Gross.
Looks like this fucking fruitcake scared everybody with his lawsuit threats. Normally you’d see 20-30 comments tearing this clown apart. What the hell happened??
The guy is a delusional pin dick.
I shouldn’t be surprised to see you willing to throw your former employee under the bus or the people commenting who read your blog. I don’t understand why you would post those screen shots- you not only admit all of the above but look very desperate. Well done?
He’s only throwing her under the bus if they agreed he would not release her identity when she decided to write for the blog.
Since we do not know what the terms were under which she wrote articles, we cannot say whether or not this is a dick move on the part of TB.
Did I call it or did I call it?
I’m put off that Uncle is talking like a bitch. Fuck this pet tracker guy. I get it that it’ll cost money to defend. But TBS is hitting us up to back his brand and cover legal. I have bought shirts, the book, and donated money. I didn’t do all that to see him act like a bitch. Stand back and find confidence in your platform man. The blog was opinion, your follow up was accurate, you will 99% most likely prevail in court. You have a CDA 230 protection. All that boasting to never losing in court and now act like a bitch? Willing to give up a former blogger? Turn over IP addresses? (AND ONCE AGAIN, if anyone thinks people can be identified though IP without extensive monitoring and legal subpoena, they’re a fucking fool. Turtleboy should know this guy is bluffing when dipshit Jamie asks for IPs) If you stop accepting that your brand will bring legal challenges, and all those donations are nothing but yours, best close shop. Like anything else, someone with real balls will come along and fight to protect free speech.
I would highly recommend reading between the lines and thinking to yourself, “Why would he do something so out of character?” I’m not going to explain it to you in writing, because I’m not stupid. I would just kind of hope you could figure that out on your own.
When people show you who they really are, believe them.
For the riff raff who don’t read good, I think Unc be sayin he dindu nuthin.
> (AND ONCE AGAIN, if anyone thinks people can be identified though IP without extensive monitoring
> and legal subpoena, they’re a fucking fool. Turtleboy should know this guy is bluffing when dipshit
> Jamie asks for IPs)
If I’m not mistaken, this site uses WordPress, and last I knew WordPress logged a commenter’s IP address — you may not see it, but it is there.
The IP in of itself doesn’t tell you anything, but a quick trip to a courthouse will get a judge to give a subpoena to either Verizon or Comcast to release the subscriber’s name associated with the IP, especially if that person is listed as “John Doe #xxx” in a court filing.
The big takeaway from this story is, if you’re going to leave a comment on a story from this blog better use a VPN.
Lookie here you be in Court more than the average Ni____r!
Why do you constantly ask readers to give you more $$$ to keep “Free speech alive”?
That ain’t sound Free to me?
That’s a real sackless move to throw Manchester girl under the bus like that.
Hey, Jamie.
Fancy suing a guy in England?
In my humble opinion.
1) You’re a whiny bitch who’s going to lose this case.
2) You got bad reviews of you’re business because you lied to your customers and you’re shit at your “job”.
3) You need a good hard kick in the cunt.
See you in court, shithead.
Regards,
Big Dick
Pretty scumbag move throwing manch under the bus
I would likewise bury him in expensive discovery…
such as copies of his client lists, financial statements, etc.
I’m sure none of his clients will have a bad thing to say about him when your legal team contacts them, right?
I will sue him for punitive damages. I will sue the people he works with and handles. I’m very upset about this. Sue everybody!
This reminds me of my sidecar incident in “93.
I’ll bring all my shoes and glasses with me. So I have them.
So Uncle TB is willing to throw current and former employees under the bus to save his skin.
Wow…
Uncle TB, news flash: You are responsible for everything on this blog.
I just love this. You’re basically admitting you don’t check anything that’s note posted by you because you run on “good faith” but you want the same protections as a media platform. How is your solution to this to write more blogs highlighting everything he’s saying is slandering his business then “reach out” and kiss his ass every step of the way. It’s like you wanted to have some sort of even playing field when asking him to drop the case. It brings me so much joy to hear you cry in every post about being sued. Former Teacher turned “blogger” internet troll cries after being sued for publishing and profiting off unverified slander. So you’re not only desperate to get Mach sued for this, you’re writing blogs in defense of the 10 other defendants while also offering to use your position to write positive stuff for him. This is priceless.
This guy is money hungry.
Course he is. His business is failing.