I normally don’t read the comments because I believe that turtle riders should have their say there and we should stay out. But I wanted to see what people thought about the blog I did last week showing the entire conversation I had with Jamie Genereux, the owner of PetTrackers who is suing me and 10 other women because we criticized his problematic business history. I was ripped apart pretty good, and in my opinion the criticisms are valid for the most part, so I wanted to address some of them:
I’m put off that Uncle is talking like a bitch. Fuck this pet tracker guy. I get it that it’ll cost money to defend. But TBS is hitting us up to back his brand and cover legal. I have bought shirts, the book, and donated money. I didn’t do all that to see him act like a bitch. Stand back and find confidence in your platform man. The blog was opinion, your follow up was accurate, you will 99% most likely prevail in court. You have a CDA 230 protection. All that boasting to never losing in court and now act like a bitch? Willing to give up a former blogger? Turn over IP addresses? (AND ONCE AGAIN, if anyone thinks people can be identified though IP without extensive monitoring and legal subpoena, they’re a fucking fool. Turtleboy should know this guy is bluffing when dipshit Jamie asks for IPs) If you stop accepting that your brand will bring legal challenges, and all those donations are nothing but yours, best close shop. Like anything else, someone with real balls will come along and fight to protect free speech.
I went into the conversation I had with Jamie last week naively believing that this man could be reasoned with. I figured he was just an oversensitive child who believed his business should be immune from public criticism, and that by taking down a blog that no one reads anyway I could save us all a lot of time and money.
But as you can see, he didn’t take this extremely generous offer I made to him. For that reason the blog is back up. Jamie Genereux saw the diplomatic, polite side of me that I had to show when I was teaching. I kept a lot of my feelings to myself during our conversation because I assumed he’d realize I was giving him what he wanted and he’d agree to end this nonsense.
I was wrong.
Jamie Genereux is not thinking straight. He’s blinded by hatred for these MDM volunteers. He assumes I conspired with them to write the blog, and he believes that they damaged him, not his long and documented history of shitty business practices.
Now Jamie is going to find out the hard way what Turtleboy is REALLY like. If he insists on pursuing this then we are going to dig and dig and dig and find every single person who has ever been wronged by him. We are going to publish their stories because we believe women. We believe survivors of Jamie Genereux’s bullying tactics. It should be noted that there are no shortage of people online who have posted negative comments about the work he does, but 10 of the 11 people he is currently suing are women.
This idiot had the chance of walking away and not having his name plastered all over the Internet for eternity. He chose not to take it. Now he’s gonna turn into Mike Gaffney and Rian Waters. I am going to continue to use my constitutionally protected free speech rights to urge everyone who knows how to Google to avoid him like the plague. This isn’t me being malicious, I genuinely believe you’d have to be stupid to hire him. In my opinion he’s unprofessional and very dumb. I don’t like giving my hard earned money to dumb people who have sued clients after lying to them about their dogs being dead. We know of at least 2 women he did this to. And yes, every once in a while he finds a dog and poses for a photo op. But guess what? So does MDM, and they do it for free.
It didn’t have to be this way Jamie. No one actually read Manch’s 9 month old blog. It didn’t come up when you searched for your name on Google. You chose this way rather than accepting my generous offer to remove all mention of you from our website.
Here’s another complaint:
Turtlechud is giving up our IP’s despite arguing free speech. Gross.
Obviously not a real email address. And I have no idea what that number is, but it’s not an IP address. When you click on it it brings you to every comment recently made by the person at that address though:
And even if that was an IP address, those only get you within a 10 mile radius or so. Dumbasses like Jamie are too stupid to know that though, so there would be no harm giving that to him if it would make this pest go away.
Plus, I’m sorry, but if you’re an anonymous shitposter in the comments and you’re too stupid to use a VPN, then Darwin was gonna get you eventually. I have no sympathy for the anonymous shitposters either. People who come on the site and write anti-semitic or racist nonsense, or things about dog trackers having sex with dogs, are not adding anything of value to the website. They’re not participating in discourse, they’re just being incendiary for the sole purpose of being incendiary. Let me be perfectly clear – if you’re doing this, I would give you up in a heartbeat. I would feed you on a platter to Jamie’s attorney in order to save myself. People like you damage our brand and our image, and if you died in a fire tomorrow the world would be a better place without you.
So if you have a problem with me giving up commenters’ information, you can blow me.
Here’s another complaint:
Pretty scumbag move throwing Manch under the bus.
I get where you’re coming from, but this is her mess to clean up. I wouldn’t do this to any other blogger but her, because she fucked this company over. Like an idiot she allegedly promised this guy, “I’m going to clear you of any deception or shady activity here,” and “Thank you for setting things straight for me, I’ll be discussing the whole story of your limited involvement, clearing up your name and continuing with the series.”
Granted, she was under no obligation to write something positive about him, even though he thinks she is obligated to do so because he’s a dumbass. But the mere fact that she was so desperate for the approval of everyone she came in contact with, and dumb enough to tell this guy that while I was on vacation and then not inform me about it, means I have no problem “throwing Manch under the bus.” She’s a grownup who created this mess, and now it’s her job to clean it up. She also has not reached out to me about this, even though she’s well aware of the lawsuit. That’s her throwing ME under the bus. When you burn me, I burn you back.
On top of that, the final straw in deciding to get rid of her happened when I saw her badmouthing a turtle rider who has been with us for a long time, and has supported us financially by buying things in the Turtleboy store. Manch decided to become friends with this turtle rider in real life, they hung out, then things got weird (Manch got weird, not the turtle rider), the turtle rider cut off ties, and Manch started badmouthing her on Facebook. Next thing you know I was defriended by the turtle rider because she feared I was going to come after her. And THAT was something I could not accept. I was FURIOUS that this long time supportive fan felt scared of a blog she had been with for years. I contacted her, found out the whole story, and immediately cut ties with Manch. It really wasn’t a big loss since she hadn’t blogged in over 3 weeks and constantly had bullshit excuses as to why that was.
I just love this. You’re basically admitting you don’t check anything that’s not posted by you because you run on “good faith” but you want the same protections as a media platform.
Yes, that’s how platforms work. Mark Zuckerberg does not manually approve every post we make. He does reserve the right to take down posts he doesn’t want on his platform though, which I’ve learned the hard way. I do the same thing with Turtleboy.
How is your solution to this to write more blogs highlighting everything he’s saying is slandering his business then “reach out” and kiss his ass every step of the way.
As I stated above, this was diplomacy. It was me attempting to extend an olive branch to a guy who ultimately doesn’t matter, but who could be a pain in my ass. He didn’t accept it so the ass kissing is over.
It’s like you wanted to have some sort of even playing field when asking him to drop the case. It brings me so much joy to hear you cry in every post about being sued. Former Teacher turned “blogger” internet troll cries after being sued for publishing and profiting off unverified slander. So you’re not only desperate to get Manch sued for this, you’re writing blogs in defense of the 10 other defendants while also offering to use your position to write positive stuff for him. This is priceless.
Except it’s not slander. Dumbass. And I wasn’t going to “write something positive about him,” I was going to write the truth. If he had something significant to add to the story I would’ve added it. But he refused to tell me what that was and constantly deflected, leading me to believe that there was nothing else to add.
The real question is, how is this terrible businessman, who gets paid by desperate people to walk through the woods with his dogs looking for other dogs, able to afford such a high priced attorney that would write a 156 page complaint suing 11 people? Let’s say he makes $1,000 per client. How many missing dogs could he possibly track in a year? It makes no sense that he’d be able to afford this lawsuit. This might be why:
His girlfriend, Attorney Sharon Schwabel. Because someone has to wear the pants in Jamie’s house, and it sure as shit isn’t gonna be him. She’s licensed in Rhode Island, but the lawsuit is in Massachusetts and it’s an attorney with an office in Boston. Who knows how this happened, but I find it impossible to believe his allegedly struggling business could possibly be able to afford this.
I kind of feel bad for her. Imagine you were so desperate for love that you settled for this douchebag?
Ouch.
Anyway, the offer remains on the table for Jamie Genereux. I want nothing to do with him or his stupid company. I’ve made my point already and I’m prepared to move on if he’s prepared to drop this. He messaged me on Friday telling me to contact his attorney about an offer. We are waiting to hear what that offer is, but we will not be paying them a penny. However, we are are a platform that has been used to investigate people far more powerful than him. If he insists on suing us then we will continue to investigate his company and publish blogs about our findings on the platform. If he drops it then we will take down any blogs about him and move on with our lives. Ultimately Jamie will not get a penny from us, so it’s in his best interest to just drop it.
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Dear Shitposters:
Would a kind Turtle Rider please tell me how I can post shit on this anonymous blog’s anonymous comments section, anonymously?? (Asking for a friend who doesn’t want to be turned in by Uncle TB).
Thanks,
Nee Chi
P.S. I don’t think I’m a shitposter worthy of being turned over to the government, but who am I to judge?? Amirite?? Only God, and Uncle TB can Judge.P.P.S. This is the best!! So much fun, and funny!!
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This comment appears critical of me and my willingness to drop a dime on anyone at any time to save my own skin. First, let me tell you how WRONG you are, because business business, brand brand, Free Speech, censorship, blah blah. Send me money. Now, off to the gallows with you! I’m turning over your IP to the FBI
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The line of what type of comment will be bus-worthy will continue to move as pressure mounts on this site’s owner.
Today, “racist” comments are in the hopper (although, your definition and my definition of racism could be miles apart). Tomorrow, comments that make fun of physical appearance could be next. It will depend on what lawsuit he is facing at the time.
Sad, but seemingly true.
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Uncle TB has jumped the shark on this one.
For the pennies the “bloggers” get from TBS as compensation based on page views and click thru’s on a platform that no longer has a reputable ad partner, if I were blogging for TBS I would stop, because we now know that one of the things REAL journalists and editors to is protect their sources, and it us clear UT will throw any “blogger” under the bus to save his own skin.
I have purchased the book, I donated to the legal defense fund, but no more.
It is apparent to me that TBS is non viable as a business, as the incessant begging for money and going to a subscription because ad revenue is zero, and the creation of a separate site for his own writings to take traffic away from the failing TBS website, is grasping at straws.If TBS as a corporation can’t afford legal insurance or the expense of litigation, which they have to know is going to be a ongoing perpetual expense, then it is time to fade away.
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I agree completely. TB has spiraled down to just incessant crying and whining. “Censorship”, “lawsuits” all punctuated with “Send us money, fam”. I doubt he pays his bloggers much, if anything at all. They’ve all been pretty vocal about working day jobs…everyone but Uncle Turtleboy, who has become the kind of ratchet he writes about, begging for money online to avoid having to secure an actual job. It’s too bad, I honestly am with some of the others when I say I really, really like BTC’s work, nearly all of it. But I think her talent exceeds this blog anyway, and that would be the final straw for me when he inevitably sells her out too. She came in and immediately starting upping the quality of the content on here, but its like shoveling when its snowing out with all the trite petty bullshit UT puts out day in day out while hes not working, just begging for reader’s cash. I think he should let this thing just die and hopefully (maybe) some of the actual talent that has come out of TB with some actual integrity and a backbone and no superiority complex will start up their own thing, minus the cash grab begging bit.
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I disagree. TBS is something special and needs to continue. Uncle Turtleboy is constantly paddling in uncharted waters. Of course he is going to make mistakes. So what? He’s doing the unprecedented.
This mindset of anytime someone makes an error to dump them (purge them) is so Social Media 2019. Grow up people. If TBS folds, what is left? Think this through.
VPN Protected Comment: Sharon has tight little bod. Just saying.
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Unprecedented? Seriously? Have you heard of TMZ? These are not uncharted waters he’s paddling in, and the hoardes of brainwashed YES MEN he has following him around aren’t doing him any favors in terms of that crazy ego.
You think if TBS goes under something else won’t fill that space? Must be your first day on the internet. Welcome, son.
I can think of a few really, really good stories. And a ton of not so good to terrible ones. Come on, now, lets be realistic.
Whats the mission here, for TB? I can tell you – pay UT’s bills. That’s it. Free speech? That’s laughable at this point. He’s ADMITTINGLY selling out bloggers and commenters. Which is more honest than he ususally is. Ever notice how anyone who disagrees with him or is critical gets attacked or jumped on? Even this bullshit damage control blog starts with “the criticism was valid for the most part” before jumping in to giving a million reasons why he doesn’t think it is. Are we stupid now? Come on, stop feeding this little tyrants ego. I like some of what TB does and again, I like a lot of people really like BTC and what shes done, but not at this sort of expense, thats unreasonable. -
Uncle, you really stepped into some dog doo this time. I think you should apologize to your supporters. Complying with a legal order is one thing but the cavalier way you dismiss the people who are content partners of this site is a mistake. Your blogs are great but they are only half the product. It is the funny, snarky, sometime vicious comments that complete the effect. You are busy churning out content so no big deal that you don’t read the comments but how about some appreciation for the content providers who don’t get paid and in many cases financially support you? This isn’t an unforgivable blunder but step back and realize that even though you are hunted, stressed, and in imminent legal jeopardy, it is not the time to turn on your friends.
Turtle Riders consider this: If there were no comments on this site, would you read it as often, or at all?
PS: I now use VPN. Thanks bud.
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So UT has just confirmed that he’d give up his turtle riders in a second for doing what he does, exercise his first amendment rights. Do you still want us to die in a fire if we’re donators as well? You’ve taken such pride in gathering these loyal followers, but then basically tell us to go fuck ourselves?
You also say that you wouldn’t give up any other blogger, just Manch… but is that only until and unless another blogger makes a mistake?. If I were one of the bloggers I’d think long and hard about that.
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Bottom line; the only ways to protect yourself from being used as bargaining chips in potential litigation are to;
A) Only make supportive and uplifting comments about every subject of every blog;
B) Refrain from making any commentsIt’s not about “free speech,” or “not caring what people think”, etc. It’s about how much can your household afford in legal fees to defend a one-off comment on a blog, because someone gives you up to save their own ass?
Thanks, but no thanks.
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Damn did you read this before you put it up, this is a terrible look for you and this site, holy shit. Anyway I commented a lot trying to be funny and posting humorous shit not really caring about the ratchets and trash that the stories were about, but this post sealed it for me, I’m out.
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I’m not going away. I believe in what TBS publishes. Ratchet behavior needs identifying, and if it brings them shame, shame on them. I “might” have crossed a line once or so in comments, but can’t recall. Any comments on tats, tits, and tut-tuts relating to ratchets, whether it’s totally serious or it’s sarcastic, is deserved. I’m not apologizing for my comments. If a lawsuit does go forward, then a legitimately-filed, submitted and served subpoena would obligate UTB to provide what is requested… but only what he has at hand, not perform any forensic research (pay for THAT, Jamie!). I firmly believe that a judge would look at the vast majority of TB comments as protected opinion, as well as any negative review comments by disgruntled customers of Mr. Genereux, and deny a subpoena. (Of course, with so many liberal ratchet judges out there, including some highlighted here, who knows what would happen?) And I STILL think Jamie Genereux is a whiny douchenozzle that needs to grow a pair, take responsibility for his life choices, drop his threat of lawsuits, and maybe get into an easier line of work. Learn to code; or learn to say “Do you want fries with that?” What you’re doing now clearly isn’t working; if it were, you’d have glowing Yelp reviews. Nuff said, ’til next time…
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I agree with you UT. I could care less of people know my name or where I live. Why? Cause I don’t say shit I don’t mean or wouldn’t say to someone’s face. I don’t say racist shit or talk trash to sound edgy. I’m a grown man with a mortgage, a family, and a job. Shocking I know. These fucking losers who come here and write stupid shit contributing nothing to the story are one of two people. Either they are immature who can’t think for themselves so they write racist immature stuff or they are trying to hurt the website. Either way fuck them and I hope they get exposed. Keep up the good work UT the real riders got your back.
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Who friggin cares if TB gives up our IP addresses? He’s 100% right. I think the comment section is often hilarious, but sometimes people get carried away. I love to read others opinions on subjects, both for & against.
If you are being a racist asshole, threatening someone, or being purposefully slanderous, you deserved to be outed. Signing your name as the douch-tracker’s wife and saying he has sex with the dogs may be funny as hell, but it may get you in trouble too.
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doesn’t say she’s his wife, In fact I don’t believe he has a wife. lots of genereuxs in Louisiana.
it also doesn’t state anything about anybody having sex with dogs
molest verb
mo·lest | \ mə-ˈlest
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molested; molesting; molests
Definition of molesttransitive verb
1 : to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile intent or injurious effect The zookeeper warned the visitors not to molest the animals.
Molest doesn’t always indicate sexual activity. Poster didn’t claim he has sex with dogs, that is your take on it I believe uncle turtle made a similar statement.
Uncle turtle posted, “Obviously not a real email address. And I have no idea what that number is, but it’s not an IP address.” it’s called an IPV6 address, I believe it is indeed an IP address.
Uncle turtle also posted” Plus, I’m sorry, but if you’re an anonymous shitposter in the comments and you’re too stupid to use a VPN, then Darwin was gonna get you eventually”
A vpn service based in the USA does not guarantee somebody anonymity. These I believe to be facts.
Is it still OK for “Shitposters” to donate to the turtleboy cause?
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Apparently this turtle guy isn’t quite the wordsmith he thinks he is. I believe he taught high school at some point, yet he doesn’t comprehend the meaning of simple words in the English language. Calling people shitposters is laughable when done by the ultimate shitblogger. Nee chi hit on his perceived intelligence and I appreciate the poster’s remarks. It seems he is in a pressure cooker of sorts so his actions are understandable
“if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen”
This folksy adage has been ascribed to President Harry S. Truman, who certainly said it and may have originated it. [c. 1950].
Also pointed out was how the comments add to the entertainment value of this blog, I concur. Some of the stories posted are just bland yet the comments are entertaining. One oafish bloke professes his love of turtleman and criticizes commenters by blurting out “These fucking losers who come here and write stupid shit contributing nothing to the story ” and then does that exact thing himself. I love them all great reading. -
Uncle turtle turd is the ultimate shit poster in the north east he points his finger and shames people instead of minding his own business and living his body life he decided to go the Jerry Springer way and profit off of others shame , uncle turtle turd must be a one of those good Christian Republicans
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I’m with the majority here, this is a chicken shit weak move. its more than just weak though, its selfish and cowardly. You actually used the words SELL OUT unc, come on. I too have noticed the difference in bloggers, and have noticed that Bristol turtlechick is the only blogger who seems to genuinely exist. I am a fan of hers but honestly how long before she leaves too, and you pretend to be her until you throw her under the bus for something, whatever? I’m done here, too. It’s been real, and you had a good thing, but theres too much a dien here for it to be any good anymore.
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I criticize you TB alot but you’re in a tough spot here. These nuisance suits are a pain in the ass. You can’t keep doing what you’re doing because its not sustainable if you have to deal with this shit. I’m not sure what can be done.
Is there any way to blog about all this stuff but not give them anything to latch on to? Tone it down a bit? Or maybe thats just not is your nature. I dont know. I feel bad.
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It’s them for me to jump ship. There are 0 principles and morals. All our IPS will be given over eventually, and I guess it’s karma for supporting a blog that tears into people. But a guy that lacks this much empathy and understanding for anyone but himself and his perspective, even his bloggers and fans now, is just a coward. This is alarming. He just said he’d sell any of us out. In plain clear print. I’m gonna for good.
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This is fucking pathetic. You’re the “editor”, you’re responsible for what goes on your blog. You’re like Facebook, though, right? So ANYONE can come publish blogs, right? Oh wait, there goes your defense. Guess that’s why you’d rather sell out all your loyal fans and former bloggers. Why should we be surprised? You’ll lie with no problem, “Uncle”. SSTG, MVTB, NSTB, Shell Shocker….they’re obviously all you. If you read through your own shit there’s been plenty of times you fuck up on whose perspective you’re writing in. And interestingly enough, there’s only 2 bloggers on TBnews….Uncle Turtleboy (AK) and….Bristol TC! Go figure! Also the only two with any social media presence/regularity on live shows. We’re not all so stupid as to not know the rest of your crew jumped ship long ago…because of YOU. So you find Bristol from where ever you found her and I wonder how long before she jumps ship too?? She’s more talented than you and displays more integrity and humility, how long before dear “Uncle” sees that as less of an asset and more of a threat? Your ship is sailed, you’re washed up and pretty soon the last of your talent will leave you. Way to push your readers out the door first. If I come on here now, its to support the only real, talented blogger I know exists on this blog…and it aint you, “Uncle.” Til Bristol leaves too!
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Uncle Turtle, I told you this was going to happen a long, long time ago. Why don’t you just use my IP address to sort my comments, you’ll see I saw your death spiral a long time ago.
You see Uncle, you’re not that smart. Don’t get me wrong, your def above average, maybe even a whole standard deviation above the average, but you’re no genius. The problem with your level of mid range intelligence is that you think you’re waaaay smarter than you actually are. This works in shitholes like Worcester, and Chicopee, but not so much in the circles that professionals and real intellectuals run in. We see right through your petty narcissism and outlandish assumptions of character based not on facks, but merely YOUR opinion, which you think THINK be facks… (This is the real dilemma of only being one standard deviation above average intelligence, you can’t see through your own narcissism/superiority).
You are reaping what you sow. I’m sorry for you, but not really. I’m sorry this blog won’t be around much longe. I love reading about ratchets and ratchetry sooooo very much.
But you be gone soon… Mark my words… you be gone soon:(
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If you don’t want to risk having comments linked back to you just wrap a layer of tinfoil around all of your electronics. If you post from a cellphone place the phone in a refrigerator immediately after publishing your comment and when you aren’t using it. Same goes for laptops.
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The only real problem I have is your treatment of the comments section. When Barstool decided to censor comments and put them behind a paywall, you couldn’t virtue signal enough about how you would never do that, free speech, morals, bla bla bla. Now you literally took the words out of Portnoy’s mouth about what’s good for the brand and not caring what happens to trolls. I get it too, there are plenty of garbage comments that are just pointless and dumb, but you still put it out there
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This is why Turtleboy is taking over – because you can say whatever you want here and we didn’t sell out to politically correct dooshnozzlesB)
We will never, ever, ever do this no matter how big we get. That is our promise to turtle riders. The comments section is where your readers get to have their say. We say our part in the blogs. South Short Turtlegirl used to go at it with commenters and I put the kabosh on that. We get a much bigger platform with the blog itself, the least we can do is let people speak freely in the comments. Turtleboy is a community blog where all voices can be heard, trolls included.And I bought the book. On kindle, so I can read it with the lights off
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Dear Uncle:
You just took a big shit on all your writers, past and present AND you managed to piss up the back of anyone who wants to post comments here. BRAVO SIR!! BRAVO!!
This article is a defensive diatribe and a not so subtle – yet no less desperate – attempt at conflict resolution. When I started reading this article, I was like, “Who gives a shit?”; but by the time I was done reading the article, I was like, “Who gives a FLYING shit?”
By quoting a recent article you wrote, “Do the right thing” (poster above) was to polite and I think the point should be made clear: You’re a hack with no journalistic traditions or integrity. You will sell out anyone who you perceive a threat to you.
The problem with that type of thinking in life – never-mind in a business!! – is that everything, and everyone starts looking like they might be a threat. Whether real or just imagined…
Good luck with that.
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Well, I guess in this type of business, you have to be ready for the nuisance lawsuits along with the major ones. As for your staff, if Manch was becoming a problem, then you gotta cut her loose. Also, I do think that ” reporters” ” bloggers” etc have to stay impartial and cannot become involved with people who they either write about, or have people commenting on articles. It doesn’t end well and it clouds judgement and credibility. So you cut ties, you did what you had to. You didn’t name her, so she isn’t really ” outed” , just No longer under your employ. As for this doggie guy, he’s looking for a payoff. I say, eff him and take it to court.
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Well maybe Manch told him this to get him to talk? It’s weird that all these same people are saying the same thing about this pet tracker.
Perhaps you should have a rule about your bloggers and their relationships with readers. It’s inexcusable to out Manch. I say that being a critic of her series. Your reasoning isn’t convincing and it really makes a lot of us not want to support you anymore.
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“Your reasoning isn’t convincing and it really makes a lot of us not want to support you anymore.” Speak for yourself. This whole mess is because she was a crap blogger and now she can’t even own her crap on behalf of the blog she was obsessed over it appears. UT for the win. Manch can suck it with the “pettracker” aka ImmaTakeYourMoneyAndSayTheDogDiedHopeYouSeeItAroundTownLater guy
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Until that blog was reposted I hadn’t read it before. Mostly because that series Manch tried doing was just one big cluster fuck, and didn’t make much sense the way she was writing it. Not like the other series that have been done, and written in an order that can be followed.
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Sometimes as adults we have to deal with people we don’t like. It sucks you have to explain yourself. People who talk crap like most of the comments you shared just want to feel superior.
I love turtleboy and it’s what I have for myself when I get a minute away from the kids.